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Re: What's your point?

Posted By: The Roadie <wcarton@flash.net>
Tuesday, 15 March 2005, at 10:43 p.m.

In Response To: Re: What's your point? (Janice)

> For your general knowledge so you don't have to think you need to snoop
> anymore my email address is janst55@aol.com and my name is Janice
> Stafford. Ghost Surf 2005 was put on our computer at home because of all
> the spammers and stuff. My husband trys and take care of the little things
> as much as he can bewteen work and such. You seem to worry about debunking
> spammers and people in general as you've brought out in more than one
> post.

The last guy on my radar screen who used AOL and Ghost Surf 2005 was caught red-handed misusing US Government resources at an Army garrison in Michigan. I imagine the investigation is not very pretty. Should I have ignored his misuse of government time and resources?

I mistakenly assumed you were him because of your tone defending the CAN-SPAM law as the be-all and end-all of spam-related regulations. Actually, you may still be misdirecting us, but it doesn't matter much.

So what's your issue with CAN-SPAM, and why did you imply I hadn't read it all and understand it quite well? One of the parties I investigate spam for uses the Oklahoma and federal laws to sue spammers to pretty good success. If you found a loophole, don't hesitate to share it with me so I can pass it by some competent legal talent.

> My husband and I have been looking at many online businesses and we cruise
> the discussion boards frequently to seek out information. Your posts on
> this and many other discussion boards caught our eye as your opinion
> against not only spammers but online businesses are negative. At lease we
> think so.

My opinion about spammers is as negative as the inside of a cat on a moonless night is black.

You discover a tidbit about me (which might be misdirection, but you'll be hard-pressed to prove it) on another discussion board, shake it in my face here like some amateur sleuth, and that is supposed to mean what? It gets my attention. Many folks spend a lot of time and effort to escape my attention. Why would you do the opposite?

I assume you're reading NANAE without the benefit of a decent news feed that keeps out the recent HipCrime flood of bogus postings, so you're probably going blind skipping the nonsense articles I never see.

> After reading this discusiion board its yielded some good information and
> we keep or minds open.

Then let's hear what you have to say about CAN-SPAM. You dragged it into the thread - now put up or give up the debate.

> Have a great evening and good luck!

The stars are indeed beautiful where I am right now. :-)

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I don't trust tinyurl.com (views: 855)
Adrien C. -- Thursday, 10 March 2005, at 6:18 p.m.
- Well, that's not what TinyURL is for... (views: 892)
  Mel. White -- Thursday, 10 March 2005, at 6:28 p.m.
  - Re: Well, that's not what TinyURL is for... (views: 1079)
    Adrien C. -- Thursday, 10 March 2005, at 6:32 p.m.
- I do. :-) (views: 857)
  The Roaie -- Thursday, 10 March 2005, at 6:29 p.m.
  - Let's talk about spamming for a sec (views: 1066)
    Adrien C. -- Thursday, 10 March 2005, at 6:39 p.m.
    - Nope! (views: 827)
      Mel. White -- Thursday, 10 March 2005, at 7:54 p.m.
      - Re: Nope! (views: 843)
        Adrien C. -- Thursday, 10 March 2005, at 8:11 p.m.
        
        You're thinking wrongly that the federal law prevails (views: 773)
        The Roadie -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 6:57 a.m.
        
        Re: You're thinking wrongly that the federal law prevails (views: 790)
        Adrien C. -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 9:26 a.m.
        
        Re: You're thinking wrongly that the federal law prevails (views: 1002)
        The Roadie -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 10:13 a.m.
        
        Re: You're thinking wrngly that te feederal law prevails (views: 847)
        Janice -- Sunday, 13 March 2005, at 6:14 p.m.
        
        What's your point? (views: 864)
        The Roadie -- Sunday, 13 March 2005, at 8:04 p.m.
        
        Re: What's your point? (views: 813)
        Janice -- Monday, 14 March 2005, at 4:33 p.m.
        
        Re: What's your point? (views: 836)
        The Roadie -- Monday, 14 March 2005, at 7:59 p.m.
        
        Re: What's your point? (views: 793)
        Janice -- Tuesday, 15 March 2005, at 4:50 p.m.
        
        Re: What's your point? (views: 859)
        The Roadie -- Tuesday, 15 March 2005, at 10:43 p.m.
        
        Re: Nope! (views: 828)
        Bill Cornelius -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 7:26 a.m.
        
        You sound pretty bitter, Bill (views: 801)
        The Roadie -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 8:39 a.m.
        
        Re: You sound pretty bitter, Bill (views: 861)
        Bill Cornelius -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 10:10 a.m.
        
        Free assistance offered (views: 812)
        The Roadie -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 10:31 a.m.
        
        Re: Free assistance offered (views: 895)
        Bill Cornelius -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 11:28 a.m.
        
        My pappy always said neither a spammer nor a nazi be.... (views: 840)
        MaaMaw -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 10:46 a.m.
        
        Re: Nope! (views: 845)
        Sandi Moses -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 9:13 a.m.
        
        Re: Nope! (views: 756)
        Adrien C. -- Friday, 11 March 2005, at 9:24 a.m.

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