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Posted By: Mr Bluto ^_^
Sunday, 4 June 2006, at 2:50 p.m.

In Response To: (1) Mr. Bluto..... (2) Mr. Bluto & Mel..... (MaaMaw)

Will your emails get through at a good rate if you use Mailloop's servers?

I have no clue. But I am willing to bet that their deliverability rate and realiability is far less than that of the top autoresponder services. I could be wrong, though. But they themselves say that it is to be used as a last resort. Why? The reasons can't be favorable to you, the user.

From what I know of Mailloop (admittedly not much) I would never use it. If I did, I would use their server.

From what I can see, it's just another DIY newsletter program except it allows you to use their own servers. But since they say to use their own servers as a last resort and they scare you into complying with this rule by using the bogus claim that you will get better results using your own domain, I have very little confidence in Mailloop and I would personally never even think about using it. It's way too over priced, they already admit that the deliverability rate using their servers is not great, and they lie and tell you that you will get better deliverability on your own domain. It's a no-brainer to me...Mailloop is not a good option.

I understand that you spent the money now and you'd like to use the program, but that really is not a good reason to use a program like this.

I also want to say that you should realize that it may very well be that you will never ever have a spam complaint against you. But let's say you run a list for FIB. Don't tell me you don't have enemies. I know you do. Anyone that runs a site alerting people to scams has plenty of enemies, even enemies you have never heard of before/yet. These enemies can ruin your business via reporting you as a spammer after they sign up for your newsletter. Sure, you might win and not lose your domains or hosting or ISP, but do you really want that hassle?

Lastly, I want to mention that you can still get reported as spammer if you use a service, but it will most likely be much less painful defending yourself if and when this happens. Using a service certainly does not relinquish you from being accused as a spammer. I don't think I mentioned that in my initial post to this thread.

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