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Posted By: Mr Bluto ^_^
Sunday, 4 June 2006, at 2:22 p.m.

In Response To: I think Bluto's right on the money, here... (Mel. White)

> (though I do disagree about Yahoo groups, having seen successes such as
> Flylady and other groups there. If your list is small, you can start there
> and move to another service -- just because you start with something
> doesn't mean you have to stay there.)

This is the problem. If you want to simply with CAN-SPAM rules, when you move from, say, yahoo groups to Aweber or GetResponse or to your own hosted list on your own domain, then you need to have every single person on your yahoo group resubscribe to that list.

I know that both Getresponse and AWeber (and probably even 1shopping cart) allow you to bulk upload a preexisting list, however, they require ALL of the subscribers re-op-in in order to protect themselves (and you) by making you comply with CAN-SPAM rules. EmailAces, from what I hear, does not require this and I have no clue why. I think they are using it as a marketing gimmick which might bite them in the arse at some point. Aweber and all these big fellas aren't dong this to make your life miserable. There is a reason they do this. They get no more money for it so that tells you that they have a good reason to have you go through this step. I think.

As for everything else, as I said before, there are exceptions to every rule and there are many factors to consider.

But too much worrying never did anyone any good nor did doing things the wrong way from the start. Of course, making mistakes is necessary for learning, but it also costs you money and time in the end. Sometimes, it's better to play it smart and safe. Such is the case when it comes to email marketing, newsletters, autoresponders, etc. Too much at risk here.

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