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Posted By: mtran2000 <firstname.lastname@example.org> In Response To: What do You need from Me to PROVE Jason's Point?..... (Christopher Zak)
Saturday, 7 January 2006, at 1:13 p.m.
In Response To: What do You need from Me to PROVE Jason's Point?..... (Christopher Zak)
One solution might be for Don to post a message clarifying everything but he seems to have vanished from this message board which I find interesting.
> Hi Lesley,
> I've got the Emails (With HEADERS, of which makes it a SOLID Case) of don
> and his lying, cheating, and scam for promoting his wares.
> He admitted via email ('cause he doesn't have the cajones to TALK OVER THE
> PHONE UNLESS You tell him that You're going to ORDER) regarding him not
> sending the Toilet Paper Truck (as promised by his ad...)
> He Did NOT Send the Complete Package as Advertised,
> and the Package was, as explained by the FTC Website's Description,
> a Complete BAIT and SWITCH...
> (I'm Sure that Jason can provide the link 'cause I'm in the midst of
> completing a project right now and don't have the time for the next few
> days to get to it.)
> I don't even have the time to post here, but need to defend Jason on His
> The Oil Stain Remover program in the midas II report did NOT supply the
> product name. When don was confronted about it, he LIED and said that his
> supplier went out of business and hasn't had the time to find another.
> A few weeks later, he's advertising the Oil Stain Remover program again on
> his website.
> I, again, confronted don about it and that's when he basically flew off of
> the handle and offered the refund.
> AFTER he offered the refund, he was NO Where to be contacted...
> he wasn't Man Enough to respond to ANY Emails or phone calls from Me.
> I have the phone bill to PROVE that I made in excess of 15 calls to him
> and could not get through.
> I will provide Whatever You need from Me if I'm able to supply it to You.
> I have even PERSONALLY Contacted the Oregon Department of Justice to turn
> him in for his Hurricane Katrina SCAM.
> Also, I'm awaiting the results from the charge back.
> You can Bet the Farm on this:
> If he disputes it, I will have Grounds to file a complaint with the Oregon
> Attorney General's office and will do so faster than You can BLINK an Eye!
> Most of the people that I've seen defend this guy ALL Seem to have a
> vested interest in him or don't know how he conducts business, so Of
> COURSE People are going to defend him...
> If You would like to contact Me, PLEASE, Do NOT Hesitate to Do So...
> Oh yeah, Happy New Year, too!
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