There you go...

> Somehow, I suspect if I knew who you were I'd recognize the name. I have
> to wonder why you're such a surrender-monkey when it comes to spam.

surrender-monkey? Calling names when I did not even warrant it? Look, I do not care about all this drama about spam simply becasue I can polic emy own system quite well. I don;t get much spam these days and the spam I get I can differentiate from a real, legit email. I jsut wish others would do the same. Self-policing is much better than big brother getting involved and certainly better than the neighbor next door noseying around my private matters.

> You sound like you have some personal knowledge of this subject. Or do you
> just read the same news reports about spammer takedowns as me?

I only know that spammers make a killing because of ONE news story I heared about a year ago or so. I cannot remember the exact figure but the gross sales of the spammer caught was in the high millions supposedly. Actually, they never did say if it was gross sales, gross profit, net sales, or whatever. I jsut assumed tht from the large #. Even if he is netting a single digit percent, he's doing OK - financially, that is.

> Someday the spam war will be over, or mostly so, and other hobbies will be
> more fun than this one.

"Dream on" is all I can say. Even if it is will be totally gotten rid of, there are plenty of other bad things they will be replacing it with. I get scam everyday sent ot me in the mail. it has been going on ever since I was old enough to read my own mail and figure it out. Has it stopped? Nope. Year after year I get scammers sending me junk mail to send them money for some bogus opportunity or some other bogus service., Liek the other day, I got a letter from a company that looked legit. It was basically a bill and letter telling me to pay them $65.00 for a domain I own. Well, not for the domain, but for the search engines. You see, they claimed that unless I paid them the money, I would get dropped fron the search engines. they called it a search engine listing fee. Is that a scam? Yes. Has it been going on for a while now? Yes., That is not the first time I have received a letter like that and it will not be the last. No t to mention the many other scams I have received opver the years. like the one that looks like a credit agency looking to collect a debt. but actually, there is no debt to collect on. but a scared person might pay up. I almost did when I was a bit younger. they were really harsh when I called them. But then I did some investigating and found they were a hoax. I still get mail like that to this day. It is now about 15-20 years later.

> If you thrive on it, carry on. If its stench doesn't sicken you, you're a
> lucky one.

Are you suggesting I am a spammer? My, my. Seems all this detective work has been making you trigger happy. And it makes for a terrible visit to a forum, as well, I mean being accused for nothing. How unpleasant is that? MaaMaw, don't expect to keep participants with the kind of courtesy Roadie provides...LOL.

> Spam is death. Spam is putrescence. Spam diminishes all of us.

hmmm....maybe. But the drama actually makes it all sound much worse than it is and like as if you need to lose sleep over it. I don;t loose sleep over spammers and phishers. I jhust protect myself. After all, this is America. I can keep my own (I say as I polish my fingernails on my blouse).

Tell me somehting, Roadie. Have you ever heared of or been a part of getting rid of a spammer from Nigeria. i mean, specifically those ones that send those violin emails on how they need you to hold money for them in a US bank account and blah, blah, blah, because a family member is in danger of being killed or something by their govt? Just curious. To the best of my knowledge, finding and prosecuting these folks is not as easy as other spammers. But I may be wrong.