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You refute your own points

Posted By: S. Tanna
Monday, 24 April 2006, at 8:22 p.m.

In Response To: The Russian spammer incident (the roadie)

> Let's reread the thread:
> http://friendsinbusiness.com/board1/archive2/index.cgi?read=97767

> I posted with the subject: "Bad Idea, Vigilante Justice?"

> And the body of the message was the press release, without comment.

> My followup's subject was "Russian Police Say Robbers Killed Spammer
> Kushnir"

> You might think I editorialized, but I didn't. Sorry to disappoint. [etc]

You refute your own points.

The subject line that you chose, was NOT part of the article, and the subject your chose was "Bad idea: vigilante justice?"

There's nothing in the article that says the murder was vigilante justice.

There's nothing in the article that queries whether a murder as vigilante justice was a bad idea, or not.

You chose both those parts.

There's two ways to read your title. Both aren't good.

Way 1: You thought the murder was vigilante justice, and you're questioning whether such vigilante justice was a bad idea, or not? In this case, the fact that you even need to ask this question...

Way 2: You querying whether a system of vigilante justice [of spammers being murdered] is a bad idea, or not? Again, I find that unpleasant

> I didn't say he deserved the death penalty for spamming, and neither did
> the two stock manipulators from New Jersey who were executed. If the
> Chinese spammers want their safety as well as profits on the Internet,
> they can figure out the best way to stay off the radar screen of their
> authorities. And me.

So Chinese spammers who want to live in safety need to stay off your radar
screen?

I find it repugnant that you think it justifiable that somebody who is merely annoying you and wasting computer resources, ought to have their life and safety put at risk, or be made afraid that it is.

> They can stop spamming. Actions have consequences,
> and they should arrange their conduct so as to avoid unwanted
> consequences. I think of it as a trade. I won't sue them for spamming;
> they won't sue me for scaring them; the spam stops; they tell their
> friends it's not safe to spam; the world's a better place.

> Yes, I'm harsh on spammers when I can find 'em. Too many ISPs are lax.
> When your own house gets tagged by grafitti scum, you tend to want to take
> harsh action. So it was for me when spam crept past 50, then 100, now 500
> emails a day. I shouldn't have to pay for the bandwidth to let that crap
> get to my filters, and it sickens me to see so many folks believe that
> hitting delete is a solution that will work long term. But this isn't the
> forum for that debate. Off the soapbox now.

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