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Re: And why you should stop annoying Chinese spammers

Posted By: S. Tanna
Monday, 24 April 2006, at 6:54 a.m.

In Response To: Re: And why you should stop annoying Chinese spammers (Bill Carton - the Roadie)

> Wonderful system we have here in America - my time is mine to waste as I
> feel like.

I don't care if you waste your time

> Sure it is. It's not a credible scenario that the government spies will
> really arrest somebody for receiving such an email, but the spammer(s)
> *will* waste a few seconds worrying. And maybe they'll see that spam has a
> cost, if only in the time it takes to deal with the reply, which they
> can't just hit delete, since it might be a legitimate inquiry.

Your express intention (I wish Maamaw had left your earlier message up), was to cause them to wet their pants, or very similar words.

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/rm/2005/50110.htm

"Mere belief in the practices of Falun Gong, even without public expression of its tenets, is sufficient grounds for practitioners to receive punishments ranging from loss of employment, to mandatory anti-Falun Gong study sessions designed to force practitioners to renounce the Falun Gong, to imprisonment. The reeducation-through-labor (RTL) system is regularly used to incarcerate Falun Gong practitioners. Some international observers believe that at least half of the 250,000 officially recorded inmates administratively sentenced to the country’s reeducation-through-labor camps are Falun Gong adherents."

In short, there are only 3 options:

1. You're wasting your time. I don't care about that.

2. You make them fear for their safety (what you impled that you were aiming for, when you say you wanted them to wet their paints)

3. You actually do put them in danger. In your most recent message, you blithely dismiss this possibility (while simultaneously basking in the fact that you were lucky enough to be born in a free society). Think about it, they live in China, they, according to you, should wet their trousers on receiving your email - now who (you or them) is more qualified to judge if there is a real risk to their safety? Why would they wet their trousers, if there wasn't at least a possibility of a real risk to their safety?

I also can't help but think of the case when a Russian spammer was murdered, and you made some comments implying that maybe he got his just desserts.

Making somebody fear for their life or safety, or perhaps even putting them in real danger, is not a proportionate or appropriate response to spam.

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