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The Russian spammer incident

Posted By: the roadie <wcarton@flash.net>
Monday, 24 April 2006, at 8:01 p.m.

In Response To: Re: And why you should stop annoying Chinese spammers (S. Tanna)

> I also can't help but think of the case when a Russian spammer was
> murdered, and you made some comments implying that maybe he got his just
> desserts.

Let's reread the thread: http://friendsinbusiness.com/board1/archive2/index.cgi?read=97767

I posted with the subject: "Bad Idea, Vigilante Justice?"

And the body of the message was the press release, without comment.

My followup's subject was "Russian Police Say Robbers Killed Spammer Kushnir"

You might think I editorialized, but I didn't. Sorry to disappoint. You might believe that posting that press release here was editorializing though. Or you're putting words in my mouth that you imagine I might have said, or thoughts I might have thought.

I didn't say he deserved the death penalty for spamming, and neither did the two stock manipulators from New Jersey who were executed. If the Chinese spammers want their safety as well as profits on the Internet, they can figure out the best way to stay off the radar screen of their authorities. And me. They can stop spamming. Actions have consequences, and they should arrange their conduct so as to avoid unwanted consequences. I think of it as a trade. I won't sue them for spamming; they won't sue me for scaring them; the spam stops; they tell their friends it's not safe to spam; the world's a better place.

Yes, I'm harsh on spammers when I can find 'em. Too many ISPs are lax. When your own house gets tagged by grafitti scum, you tend to want to take harsh action. So it was for me when spam crept past 50, then 100, now 500 emails a day. I shouldn't have to pay for the bandwidth to let that crap get to my filters, and it sickens me to see so many folks believe that hitting delete is a solution that will work long term. But this isn't the forum for that debate. Off the soapbox now.

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