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Re: I got on the trail...

Posted By: Dennis Bevers <bassco2@bellsouth.net>
Saturday, 26 November 2005, at 2:36 p.m.

In Response To: Re: I got on the trail... (Tracy)

> I think the "scam" part of it is all in the definition of the
> word. I'll concede that it's not a scam in the same way that many of the
> things discussed here are. I suppose I need a better word than scam. If
> you can suggest one, be my guest!

How about the MK facade??? Or maybe mythology.

> Up until now, there hasn't been much "negative" on the 'net
> about MK. Again, I think it goes back to the secret code of silence within
> MK. That code is never discussed. But most everyone "in" knows
> that once you're "out", if you ever say anything negative about
> your experience, you'll immediately be labeled as a quitter, loser,
> whiner, etc.
> Even when you're "in", you're not even allowed to say anything
> remotely negative. If you're not selling much and someone asks how
> business is, you are instructed to say "great"!!!! (After all,
> who would want to join if they know the sales are tough.) Even those who
> are doing poorly aren't allowed to be honest about it with anyone. If you
> do, you risk being labeled as a "Negative Nelly" or in my unit's
> case, you'd be stuck holding the toy skunk for the rest of the meeting.

None of this is exclusive to MK. This type methodoly of keeping the "sheep" in the flock is quite pervasive in any long-term MLM company. We frequently hear the comments from ex-MLMers being labelled quitters and whiners. B4 the quit completely, they are often told their lack of success is their fault. If they'd buy and listen to more tapes and training materials, attend the big meetings, buy more lists of names to call, etc.

If you haven't been labelled a "Negative Nellie", you haven't experienced the true "religion" of MLM. Where every thought, word, or attitude must be brought into the belief in success system.

My first and worst MLM experience was with the big "A" - It isn't Amway type promoters. Lots of hype, rush to success, ATTITU-IT, "If it's to be, It's Up to Me!", with a whole lot of Rah Rah thrown in for good measure.

The blame game is a common tactic used to keep the unsuccessful distributors in line. All their complaints are turned back on them. Sometimes it works and can keep them in line for additional months, allowing the upline more months of override compensation for what little they do sell.

And in the case of product loading, it means more direct income to the ones pushing in on their downline.

Many of us regulars on FIB have been through one of more MLM companies and can relate to your experience. I just didn't realize MK had similar loser to successful rations.

Dennis Bevers

My home-based, b2b sales opportunity

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