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Re: I got on the trail...

Posted By: Tracy <tracyred06@yahoo.com>
Saturday, 26 November 2005, at 10:38 a.m.

In Response To: Re: I got on the trail... (Michael J McMillan)

Great post!

I think the "scam" part of it is all in the definition of the word. I'll concede that it's not a scam in the same way that many of the things discussed here are. I suppose I need a better word than scam. If you can suggest one, be my guest!

Up until now, there hasn't been much "negative" on the 'net about MK. Again, I think it goes back to the secret code of silence within MK. That code is never discussed. But most everyone "in" knows that once you're "out", if you ever say anything negative about your experience, you'll immediately be labeled as a quitter, loser, whiner, etc.

Even when you're "in", you're not even allowed to say anything remotely negative. If you're not selling much and someone asks how business is, you are instructed to say "great"!!!! (After all, who would want to join if they know the sales are tough.) Even those who are doing poorly aren't allowed to be honest about it with anyone. If you do, you risk being labeled as a "Negative Nelly" or in my unit's case, you'd be stuck holding the toy skunk for the rest of the meeting.

So a small group of us started a Yahoo group in February for those labeled as negative or quitters or losers or whatever. The group has grown substantially. A website was started a short time later by our group owner. In the last couple of months alone, the website has had 6,000 hits, which I consider to be quite an accomplishment for a new site.

Back to your original comment about searching for negative info on MK...you won't find much out there YET. We add members daily who recount similar tales of deceit and deception.

Thanks for your thoughtful response!

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