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Posted By: Larry Foster In Response To: You're assuming that "many here" are thinking.... (MaaMaw)
Wednesday, 28 December 2005, at 7:51 p.m.
In Response To: You're assuming that "many here" are thinking.... (MaaMaw)
First, I apologize if my statement is too general. Because of my desire to respond and just a little time to do so, I may have not put as much thought into my words as I usually try to do.
> "Gollywhizbang, John T. Reed said it's a scam so it must be a
> I don't see anyone doing that.
If I can, respectfully disagree,I think there were several posts in this thread that fairly well said that.
As far as John Reed, he is cited here pretty often as a trusted authority by some. I happen to agree with him on Russ Whitney from personal experience. I disagree on others from personal experience.
However, as I have stated here before, I find him mean-spirited and his credibility is lacking. That is my opinion.
> I still have no interest in reading the book (I explained why and it has
> nothing to do with thinking "it's a scam"), but I looked at John
> T. Reed's opinion and decided very quickly that it's more of a hostile
> rant than a "report."
As far as the book, reading it or not is anyone's choice. I recommend it as well as the whole series because it gives alternative viewpoints. It was, for me, one of those books that had a profound impact.
> I thought "Rich Dad's" reply made a lot more sense than the
> I'll be blunt:
> I am really sick of your generalizations about "the people on this
I apologized for this but will add additional comments at the end.
> There is a tiny handful who "wants to believe everything is a
> scam," and there is a tiny handful who "doesn't believe anything
> is a scam and every failure is the fault of the victim who's just lying
> around waiting for the Bluebird of Happiness to dump money on his
I hope it's a tiny handful and I agree it's not the majority. At least it doesn't seem to be.
> The MAJORITY (myself included) believe certain "opportunities"
> are scams based on life experience and education in the School of Hard
> Knocks, which is a perfectly acceptable place to get educated (if you can
> afford the losses).
I also have invested tons of money and lost it in "opportunities." Been to the same school, maybe different teachers. I've also spent thousands on courses, seminars, etc. that were pretty worthless.
Whether I was ripped off or not, I would never wish to see anyone taken advantage of and would do anything I could to prevent that happening to anyone. I do know about being down and out like I've seen others here. My heart also goes out when I see people here who have been ripped off.
Having said that, there are people here who rely on John Reed and the Rip Off report. I'm not sure either of these are good places but they're easy to find when you're looking for advice.
I find them more to be dream stealers.
"> I am really sick of your generalizations about "the people on this
I try to contribute here. I'm not a drive by person. My viewpoint may not be shared by the majority.
Is it better to say what someone wants to hear or what they need to hear
If you're sick of me, then it is your right to ask me to leave or ban me.
If I'm not welcome, please let me know.
If your feet don't move, you must be dead
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