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Re: Couple things...

Posted By: Bob Baroner
Wednesday, 30 November 2005, at 5:47 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Couple things... (JH)

> I want to make this a public as possible and therefore I'm posting this
> everywhere I can think of where people may be looking for reviews on this
> software.

I understand but many other folks don't. They seem to think that if you post the same post to more than one forum then you are a spammer, even if you are not selling anything or spreading malware. Hey, don;t look at me, I am not the one that thinks that way, just giving you a heads up.

> So far, my post on the warrior forum has pulled out an ex-employee of
> Dynamic Content Router who has told his story which confirms my post.

Haven't been over there in a while. I'll have to check the thread out.

> I do understand that there are conmen everywhere. The problem is, I read
> positive posts by people who had already bought the software when clearly
> it wasn't working.

This often happens on the warrior forum. Some there mislabel this as a "joint venture" knowing full well that it's just plain FRAUD.

> I have saved the page as suggested but I paid with available funds in my
> Stormpay account so a charge back wont work.

> Is there anything else I can do to get my money back?

Sorry to hear that. I am not familiar with StormPay but do they offer buyer protection like PayPal does? If so, start the ball rolling as soon as possible on disputing the purchase through Stormpay.

I never checked out stormpay because when it first came out, many shady marketers were pushing people to us it for purchases which made me think that perhaps stormpay does not have good buyer protection. Therefore, I have always stayed away from stormpay. I could have been wrong but I have never had to use stormpay. everyone who takes stormpay usually takes PayPal or uses 2Checkout or ClickBank.

You could try calling your bank but I am pretty sure they cannot do anything for you, especially because you used funds from your stormpay account and not directly out of your bank account.

> JH

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