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No offense taken

Posted By: Sandi Moses
Monday, 25 April 2005, at 9:36 a.m.

In Response To: I understand where you're coming from and hope you aren't offended that I posted this here... (MaaMaw)

It's kind of nice to share different opinions without being attacked by a pack of wolves! :) It's easier to formulate my thoughts in writing anyway because no one is "in my face." And if they're like "The Tim" I don't even open their posts! :)

> They're "real companies"

What makes them "real"? Tangible products? Two of them sell food that some might say has made a major and direct contribution to the obesity and diabetes epidemic we face as a nation. The third one has done its best to monopolize the computer industry and has become the company everyone loves to hate. But I digress . . .

Advertising is a real product, btw.

-- true, many "real
> companies" go belly-up and some are closed down in disgrace, but
> still they are not comparable to "faceless promises" on the
> internet, which in my mind are even more shaky than, say, someone you see
> each week at the grocery store asking you to put your money on a
> "ladder" such as this. There is nothing backing it but promises.

Kim Inman put his face up lots of places. He and his wife attend all the functions (cruises etc) that YMMSS sponsors. He personally participates in all the conference calls. They don't hide from anyone. I've never called but I've been told he sometimes even personally answers the phone. People who are hiding have answering machines and voice mailboxes that fill up without any personal response whatsoever.

> But your money buys a product, not a promise. It's the promise that
> worries me -- and the length of TIME it takes for that promise to be
> fulfilled.

Your money buys a product here, too. It's called "advertising." You could advertise your Cory Rudl link if you wanted to. Or real estate, or livestock or antique cars or . . . because you can specify locality. There are 40 different categories and yes, I have heard of people who sold stuff. Real, physical stuff.

> I agree, and I'm not trying to bash it -- but since it came up, and since
> you are a trusted FIBer and people will follow you (I am not implying that
> you were trying to promote it, I mean it came up as part of a discussion)
> -- I feel it is important to point out the HUMONGOUS dangers.

Not to worry. To my knowledge, no one has signed up and that's fine. There is no need for me to build a "downline" and no need to fill up a matrix. That was not why I posted the link. And criminently I certainly never intended to start this!!!!!

> I see where they're attracting people with their honesty and apparent
> ethics. The whole site is built on that -- but no one has a clue if it's
> real or just their way of pitching their product.

There are plenty of testimonies. http://www.ymmss.com/testimonials.php

And for those who missed the post elsewhere in this thread, if you read the testimonials, you will notice without too much effort, banner ads from the Linkshare partner companies. All over the place. Advertising.

>People can be anything they want to be on the net.

Yup. You and me included! I don't hide anything and I can't see any evidence that you hide anything but by your logic we may just be good at being sneaky!

> And a helluva lot less than some people spend on a single seminar where
> they then turn around and spend another bundle. If you believe in it and
> can afford to lose the $520, the only other thing you're risking is a huge
> disappointment.

> Right -- but you need to add two more words: "and honest."

> "If Kim Inman is correct AND HONEST, I will have..."

> You have only his word that he is and you don't know him from a box of
> Cracker Jacks. That's my problem. I can't begin to discuss "the
> business model" or work the numbers and figure out if what he says is
> even possible. It's way over my head.

> But from what little I do understand, I can see he's going to walk away
> with a bloody fortune if he decides to walk away -- and you are aware of
> the risk and have decided you can afford to lose the money, but what
> worries me is the people who are pouring thousands into this. Are they
> aware of the risk??

As I said earlier, his phone number is posted. Anyone can call and discuss their concerns before making their decision. That way their decision is an ** informed decision. **

> Good luck with it, Sandi!

> Luv,

> MaaMaw

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