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Re: Hmmmmmm.

Posted By: Kimberly Bollmann
Wednesday, 21 September 2005, at 8:51 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Hmmmmmm. (Tony)

Tony,

We are definately not lying about our income. We were 1 sale away from winning the march madness contest in march that Jim Reeves won. We have been fortunate to have a lot of people sticking by our side. See they, unlike you, have gotten to know us... and know we are good people just making a living with our internet businesses.

We actually started Fountains because the secondary business we were promoting went down for wrongful guarantees. We had teammates with advertising out there, that I was able to pause knowing the owners. I saved many people advertising dollars in that, and yet the orders continued to pour in. DO your own research on Proven Concepts because that is THE ONLY REASON I started my own company.

PC went out of business, and people were asking if I could fulfull orders. Not legally unless I purchased resell rights. Which is what we went on to do and start our own company. I had no alterior motives. I was promoting PC as a funneling system for EPI. I had no idea about these EPI conditions or I would have run it past the council.

Yes its true, we aren't the best with our money. It is something we are working on improving but that doesnt make us guilty of fraud or lies.

And we know nothing about our rights in court. I think we might have something against the company, but if you know me I do not believe in suing anyone who does wrong to you. Personally I think its rediculous how many lawsuits there are. In fact, I used to live in NJ and the car insurance was even higher than NYC due to all the lawsuits that went on there. I was an office manager and saw so many people faking it for money. I think its unbelievably wrong, and if you want to talk about scams I would start there!

So to say the least, I am not fond of lawsuits. I believe most of them come out of rediculous circumstances, but I am also not going to be bullied around. You can think what you want about me or my business practice... but I have not done anything wrong. 99% of my team know that and thats what matters. James and I act with our hearts, and we have always lead with with our passions.

Our team is now in the hands with another distributor who also can train them toward success. And I do hope those that stay with the company find that. But if they don't it will be due to lack of effort and I know full well that I do not take the blame. You might not understand this unless you are in business but thats ok.

I think I have said Enough. As I stated originally, I came here to tell Maa she was right. Not about me "scamming" people because I still believe I wasn't... but in the fact that you will never be secure with Biz Opps and companies where they control the product (and what I find out now... A LOT MORE than I would have accepted had I KNOWN).

Cast whatever stones you want. I am the one living this nightmare, and I will be the one to get myself out of it. Whether you wish to sympothize with it or not is your choice. I just came here to say my piece and hopefully show how things can go wrong if your not extremely careful.

As for Maa, I told you I would come back and swallow my pride if I was wrong. I admit it. Isn't that enough for you? I thought you would be happy that I did this to give you additional credibility. So what do you suggest with all of this? What would you do to make a living if your income was ripped right from under you? Just curious?!

All the Best,

Kimberly Bollmann

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