Excellent Post Jim! (DNO)

> Tony,
> You have explained absolutely nothing.
> My responses are interlaced below:

> 1. This is candid? I thought you might have actually decided to tell us
> about your business. In the rest of your post, you dropped tiny little
> hints, but nothing concrete.

> 2. You must care what we think to some extent, or you'd have just packed
> your bags and moved on to some other forum where you can try to subtly
> peddle your wares.
> When leaving your link, it is a known (yet, subtle) marketing method to
> bring traffic to your website. Nothing wrong with it on most forums, as
> long as you aren't hyping your posts (which you didn't and I do give you
> credit for that part). However, if you are going to leave your link on a
> forum such as this, you hopefully have an above-board site that meets the
> ethics of what is promoted by most on this forum.

> 3. Let's look at your original post about the Rudl report:

> Mia, skip the Rudl Report.

> In a nutshell, it tells you to sign up in Corey Rudl's affiliate

> program and then buy all those products through your own affiliate

> link. The end result is that you'll be paying retail price but

> getting a commission on your own purchase.

> I've yet to figure out why anyone would want to sell that little

> tidbit since Corey is pretty open about the fact that he allows it.

> First of all, at least you know what you are being offered. Second, Corey
> Rudl has actually built a business and is open and honest about how to do
> it. Third, you have the gall to slam his product, yet won't reveal what
> your "product" is.

> Great! You went from selling books to Herbalife? Is that MLM?
> Well, I don't still don't know, but you don't provide enough information,
> so you leave us to make assumptions. So when you keep everything so
> Secret, it makes people wonder what you're hiding and we tend to expect
> the worst.

> Again, we are left to assume... an advertising company that provides leads
> for 26 different companies? You sell email addresses for spamming?
> How did you get your first customer that started all the other referrals?
> And without advertising? Cold-Calling?
> (Anyone that doesn't advertise their business won't be in business for
> long)
> This could get weary trying to ascertain what you are trying not to say.

> My attitude and tone have nothing to do with how much I have to do. Yes, I
> could be doing a lot of other things (and I should probably be doing them
> right now), but I also am not one to let someone start off trashing
> someone else's product, then stick their snake-oil tag at the end of their
> post. However, even if I were retired and had nothing to do but sit here
> and offer a little honest advice, doesn't mean that it's of no value. And
> if it were to keep someone from falling victim to a get-rich-quick scheme,
> then it's of great value to someone and I don't mind "making the
> time" to do so.

> My academic knowledge is an on-going learning process of many things,
> which I do pride myself on. Experience is also a valuable method of
> learning, which I've gained lot of, from this aspect, as well. However,
> the more we learn from others, the less time we have to spend to learn
> lessons the hard way. As I outlined in a previous post, I spent quite a
> few years as a corporate instructor teaching security and customer
> service, among other things not related to this particular topic. How is
> it that I'm so familiar with the FTC and other laws? I'm also an
> auctioneer. Most people don't understand that a professional auctioneer
> has to keep up-to-date on laws, as they can be held responsible for what
> they sell, how they represent it, marketing, and the liabilities that come
> with handling all sorts of businesses. And you thought all they did was
> talk fast? I spend a lot of time reading and keeping abreast of all sorts
> of business and consumer regulations, laws, and many other aspects of
> running a business, both online and off. In other words, I do my homework.

> Look Kiddo... You haven't been perfectly honest about anything here.

> Just because a doctor is fat, doesn't mean he doesn't have the knowledge
> to help you stay healthy, it may only mean that he may not have the
> personal fortitude to observe what he knows, or perhaps he spends so much
> time sitting on his butt researching that he doesn't have time to follow
> his own advice. To discount his knowledge, may only mean that you may be
> the ignorant one. Don't make assumptions based on someone's appearance.
> Had you ever met Sam Walton, you'd have never guessed that he was the
> owner of Walmart, as he often wore overalls and drove around in a beat-up
> pickup truck. I think he made over 7 figures ;) LOL

> As far as working from home? I do work from home and all over... do I make
> 6 figures? No. But so far, I don't know that you do either. That's only
> what you claim. You also claim that by "qualifying" for your
> opportunity, that I can make $250,000/year. You claim that you did that in
> your first year? Care to share your tax records? I doubt it.

> By the way, I'm still trying to figure out what I might have to do to
> "qualify"... I'm over 18. Do I have to have a certain amount of
> disposable income to put into this "opportunity"?

> The one thing I DO know... What I do is HONEST and people know up-front
> what I can offer them and what it is going to cost them. No Secrets... No
> Hype... and after telling them all of that, I'll even send them a copy of
> the contract, so they can review it with their lawyer first. And I might
> even pay all the costs out of my pocket first, and then deduct them from
> the proceeds. That means no up-front money out of their pocket.

> Of course not... you'd definitely expose yourself. Then we'd know what
> you're really trying to sell. Next thing ya know, people will be talking
> about your opportunity on other forums, too.

> Then why do you post your URL on this forum?

> See above... regarding your "helpful" reply. I would disagree
> that it was helpful and was only to get her to click your link and draw
> her into your web of deceit.

> And I GLADLY ACCEPT THAT RESPONSIBILITY.