Yep... It's all MY fault...

...for exposing a potential fraud. I admit it. Golly, Shucks, GeeWiz... Ya might as well take away my brownies. :(

Come on, Tony. Is that the best you can do? To decry that Lesley and I are at fault, in view of the fact that I only followed your link and found it was just a great example of what "not to do"?
YOU left the link. Yes, that is normally allowed. However, MaaMaw's whole premise to this website was to warn others (newbies or otherwise) of the scams that have perpertuated for eons and continue even in this day and age.

As YOU left the link (in the hopes that someone would follow it, as I did), I only did what many others may have done. It is only your misfortune that I saw the Red-Flags that may have been missed by those less informed.

Am I obsessed with newbies? Obsessed is not the appropriate word, by any means.
What is a newbie? They are typically the ones that fall for the scams, due to ignorance of such "opportunities". And before you try to condemn my use of the word ignorance and try to twist my utilization of it. Ignorance is not the same as stupidity. Ignorance is only a lack of knowledge of a particular subject, which can be quickly corrected through a little education. We all are ignorant of many things, but by reading through this website and this forum, we are able to learn what to watch out for, so that we aren't taken in by Pie-In-The-Sky claims to wealth. Those, such as Christine, who come here looking for help will quickly learn how to avoid such "opportunities" and find the real opportunities that will allow them to build a real, ethical business.

The scams that have persisted long before 'snake-oil' salesmen preyed on the misinformed, those that are uneducated to these types of sleuths of deception. To try to inform and educate everyone (newbies and everyone else) of 'what to watch out for' is what this forum was set up to do (or didn't you read through the rest of the website, in which Lesley clearly explains her purpose for this?). I'm glad that she has provided this forum and that it is starting to get the exposure it deserves. I tell everyone about it and encourage everyone to do the same.

MaaMaw, you may be a strange bird, but I'd be happy to be a part of your flock, anytime. You've got one of the Greatest Shows on Earth going here! Keep up the GREAT work and you have all my wishes for your REAL SUCCESS!

Jim

P.S. to Tony,
Even when she has given you full permission to provide information on your business, you have still only side-stepped the issue and only tried to feebly discredit the accusations, without providing any real substance to the issue.

Any real salesperson would take the opportunity when offered and give the best sales presentation they can put together to show the benefits of thier product and how it is going to be the best thing since sliced brownies. (ok... bad pun intended.)

> "MaaMaw", you're a strange bird; you disallow my link for no
> other reason than you have a broken "radar"....and then you
> invite me to give all kinds of information about who we are, what we do
> and how we do it. Go figure.

> Incidentally, you ought to pay better attention. This entire fiasco is the
> result of my post down the board about "The Rudl Report". It had
> absolutely nothing to do with my business. But, Jim (being evidently
> obsessed with newbies) felt the need to drag my business into the
> limelight and make it a subject of conversation.

> I've YET to offer anyone information on my business other than using a sig
> file (which I understood was allowed). So, whatever ruckus has appeared on
> this board about me or my business is entirely propagated by MaaMaw and
> Jim.

> Thanks guys!