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Posted By: Kirt Christensen In Response To: Re: Kirt... (Barry Stein)
Friday, 18 March 2005, at 9:50 a.m.
> Hi Rick,
> I think the main income from those Web sites come from AdSense revenue.
On these particular sites, yes.
In general, only about a 1/3 of our sites use AdSense.
> It seems that the Web pages were created with Traffic Equalizer or some
> other similar type of software. Often times people will customize these
> Web pages and put an affiliate product and link at the top of every page.
> Something that is relevant to the keyword or keyword phrase.
> These software programs can make thousands of these Web pages very
> quickly.
> Personally I don't like these Web pages since they mostly don't contain
> any relevant content, just lots of keywords and keyword links to
> try to score high with the search engines.
Most of the softwares also "scrape" search engine results and don't bother to tell you that, which will get you banned in a heart beat.
In the methods that I use, we don't.
We use our own data.
We've also been using this system that we hand-built for 4 years, so we can attest to the longevity of it, done correctly, without cutting corners.
(Cutting corners is where all the mistakes are made, and with most of the pieces of software out there...)
> From what I've read Google doesn't like these Web pages either and
> will often remove them from their index. I cannot verify that, just
> what I've read. I'd guess Google doesn't like them because they basically
> try to trick the search engines with all the keyword "spam" and
> the links
> they create.
Nope, once these types of sites are "mature", and have ongoing updating due to articles being submitted, the SE's love them.
The example sites I showed are purposefully "new", once sites have been up like 6 months to a year, they continually get other articles on the topic, other inbound links, other content added -- all by visitors to the site.
> I think even if you use these type of Web sites that you still have to
> do a lot of the traditional link exchanges, etc., to get the PR high
> enough so they get a higher position in Google.
Yes and no.
We have top rankings on one word phrases on both Google and Yahoo.
One word, competitive phrases, like "golf", not things like "los angeles county cheap golfe"
> One of the most important things you can do if you own a Web aite is to
> get it listed in the Open Directory Project (DMOZ), which will really give
> your Web site a PR boost. I seriously doubt that you can get these
> automated
> Web sites into the DMOZ.
Interesting concept, what have been your monetary results from this angle?
Kirt
> The following web sites use DMOZ data search:
> 1. All the Web
> 2. AltaVista
> 3. Gigablast
> 4. Google USENET
> 5. Google
> 6. HotBot
> 7. Lycos
> 8. Teoma
> 9. WiseNut
> 10. Yahoo
> regards,
> Barry Stein
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