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Re: Ya kinda set yourself up, dude. :)

Posted By: al
Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 8:24 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Ya kinda set yourself up, dude. :) (Frank Calleros)

Hello everybody. This is the first time I've had the "courage" to post on this board (make that any board). One question that I have is, what is the definition of a "newbie". Frank states "I've launched several businesses in my time and currently own three, one of which currently nets near $100k/ yr. online and then he states, "And that kinda talk doesn't feel so good to a newbie like me, Jimbo"
Wow, to make $100K/ yr and still call yourself a "newbie". I thought a "newbie" would be someone like me from the "typewriter" age trying to learn that a "cookie" is not something that you eat. I am learning soo much from this site. thank you.
> Jimbo -

> Thanks for the input, Jimbo. Susan, too.

> As far as I can tell, 100,000 is simply a "goal" of YMMSS, not a
> "need"...

> That's pretty loaded language, Jimbo. The advertising business advertises
> whatever its clients pay for, right? TVs, shoes, ISPs, books, travel,
> autos, tampax, whatever... Hey - What does Ebay advertise?

> I can't find a guarantee of $100,000/yr. Where did you find that?

> "The primary mission of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
> (SEC) is to protect investors ..." -
> http://www.sec.gov/about/whatwedo.shtml

> What I'm seeking is solid evidence of wrongdoing, fraud or criminality,
> not just opinion and speculation.

> I just see folks slamming YMMSS without consideration of it's long-term
> vision. Personally, I'm inclined to cut 'em some slack and give 'em time
> in order to develop their retail advertising business. That takes time.
> Real businesses take time. It's just that simple.

> What do sucessful investors do in all markets? Put up money BEFORE the
> success, not afterwards... based on calculated risk.

> Thst's a different model - I watched that one come and go, too...

> At least this guy is tracking ongoing developments, but as he says
> "time will tell" and
> "We shall see".

> I've launched several businesses in my time and currently own three, one
> of which currently nets near $100k/ yr. online. So I've learned to handle
> business hiccups and bumps in the road by taking them in stride, as I
> suppose the YMMSS folks are doing right now...

> Phooey!

> Nothing of substance in that tired, old thread, IMHO. Just a decidedly
> negative bias and passive-aggressive pot shots.

> An advertising business takes TIME to set up and develop. Let's wait and
> see how it flies. Geez, didn't Edison spend years on the electric light,
> trying over 10,000 combinstions before tungston?

> The posters on thst board would have torn Edison to shreds - and Galileo,
> Columbus, Tesla and Bell, too.

> "Suspicion is the easiest weapon to wield and is the chosen tool of
> the lazy."

> I'm looking not for speculative "opinions",
> "suspicions" and "beliefs" about YMMSS, but for
> documented EVIDENCE of wrongdoing, fraud or so-called "scam".

> The cycle time fluctuations are a current concern, for sure, but even if
> they hit 180 days, where else can we get this kind of business performance
> twice a year?

> If I can join YMMSS for under $25, then why not do it, then wait and
> see... ? What's the big deal?

> It's just a matter of time, eh? And the risk/return ration seems too good
> to ignore, as I see it.

> Nope, not yet.

> And that kinda talk doesn't feel so good to a newbie like me, Jimbo. No
> need for harshness and suspicion. I just want to dig up hard facts, if
> they exist. So

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