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YMMSS.ORG

Posted By: Frank Calleros
Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 7:10 p.m.

Cheers!

I'm interested in YMMSS.ORG, and I've been investigating for nearly 6 weeks now. Please 'google'"YMMSS", and see if you can find ANY formal complaints, ANY disgruntled YMMSS members, ANY YMMSS SEC filings or open investigations - or ANY criticism from a person who grasps the YMMSS business model with clarity.

It's all negative speculation - no substance. All I can find is name calling and mud slinging from outsiders who say they "don't believe" it can work, yet they do NOT seem to grasp the business model and are unwilling to test it out for themselves to get some observable results and familiarity with the company's vision.

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even he simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." - Leo Tolstoy

Ain't it the truth... ?

As I see it, the aim of the company is to build a highly interactive 'safegroup', one in which corporate, retail advertisers can find a desirable, focused buying community - and members earn great money in return for their participation. There is a pretty clear explanation in an ebook from http://www.claycotton.com/00-basics/Amazing-Internet-Income.exe

As of 2/13/2005 apparently, 20,000 members have been paid over $70 million since 1/1/2004. That's not insignificant.

Posts in the YMMSS user forums at http://ymforums.com refer to a Retail Ad site launch before April 2005 and an upcoming connection to Wells Fargo bank.

YMMSS seems to be building a database of stable, eager members who get paid to read ads. The members login to do this at least 30 minutes/week each, so it is clear that the ads actually get read and the commercials viewed.

The long-term revenue model seems simple enough: Global, corporate, retail companies are invited to advertise to the membership, and the resulting fees are paid back to the members via the Commissions Payable fund. Seems solid to me. Could it be that this one will actually WORK? It's worth considering, IMHO...

Any solid evidence against YMMSS would be helpful. In any case, I'm getting kinda antsy to try it out...

- Frank

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YMMSS.ORG (views: 820)
Frank Calleros -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 7:10 p.m.
- Re: YMMSS.ORG (views: 766)
  Susan Holmes -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 7:26 p.m.
  - Sock Puppet? [DNO] (views: 717)
    Ebenezer Scrooge -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 5:31 a.m.
    - Re: Sock Puppet? [DNO] (views: 767)
      Frank Calleros -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 1:04 p.m.
- Ya kinda set yourself up, dude. :) (views: 757)
  Jimbo -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 5:59 a.m.
  - Re: Ya kinda set yourself up, dude. :) (views: 708)
    Frank Calleros -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 12:55 p.m.
    - If I can join YMMSS for under $25, then why not doo it, then wait and see... ? What's he big deal? (views: 702)
      MaaMaw -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 3:54 p.m.
      - "You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky (views: 901)
        Frank Calleros -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 5:17 p.m.
        
        I'll try to be gentle.... (views: 741)
        MaaMaw -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 8:14 p.m.
    - Re: Ya kinda set yourself up, dude. :) (views: 725)
      al -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 8:24 p.m.
- Re: YMMSS.ORG (views: 744)
  Rick K. -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 11:28 p.m.
  - Daily Dose of TIm - YMMSS Toadie Nostalgia (views: 729)
    The Tim -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 7:55 a.m.
  - Classic! ROTFLMAO (views: 697)
    Jennie -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 9:24 p.m.

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