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Posted By: The Roadie <wcarton@flash.net> In Response To: Bill, have you heard of mysuccessuniversity? (Kim)
Tuesday, 16 November 2004, at 5:13 p.m.
> Hi Bill,
> I was looking at your flash movie info... about one up automated. I am
> very familiar with them. In reading it, they mention all the email leads
> that people were purchasing and encouraged to use to promote one up...
> that was the big draw to it before the CAN SPAM rules came about in
> January.
They even hired a lawyer to advise them on CAN-SPAM issues. Problem was, their lawyer was a retired attorney (Andrew Jaffe) who had turned to spamming who we had already noticed on the nasty little spammer message boards we lurk in.
> Have you ever heard of www.mysuccessuniversity.com?
Oh, yes. Joseph Parton is on our radar screen big time!
I've cost him some domains at GoDaddy, he's treatened lawsuits, and I'm exposing his abuses to some of his members every weekend.
> You might want to have
> a look at this one. They advertise over 50 million email addresses. These
> aren't even on a database that gets cleaned, they come on CD. That means
> these people using it are definately spamming people who have been asked
> to be removed, over and over again.
Agreed. I've got a colleague in Oklahoma involved, since his state's anti-spam law was not superceded by CAN-SPAM, and as an ISP owner, he can file suits.
> I joined it because I was looking to learn other marketing methods. The
> sales copy was so good. My opinion after evaluating the product was that
> it was a rip off. All the owner did was put together aspects of One up
> automated, digital response solitions and webwealth. Then he packaged it
> together into a one up comp plan and sells it for a bundle.
$1650, as I remember?
> For anyone halfway knowledged about internet marketing, you will want to
> stay away. I think even a beginner would have better luck going with a
> different company and being trained the ropes from their sponsor.
> Any comments?
Any experienced spammer or victimized newbie who benefits from slick programs like this one is taking a large risk of a lawsuit. Some former 1UpAutomated members are even now getting their lawsuits served, and the clever ones are settling before trial. The liability exposure for My Success University is just beginning, and I have every confidence that lawsuits will be the result.
I should have a web site expose on Joseph Parton and Chris Falck (his UK autoresponder guy who provides the bulletproof capture pages) very soon.
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