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Posted By: The Roadie <wcarton@flash.net> In Response To: Re: Recommended Autoresponders (Kim)
Tuesday, 16 November 2004, at 4:49 p.m.
> Another way you could do it is go to www.legalsender.com. That is a bulk
> sender that masks where it is being sent from, so you will never be
> accused of spam.
Nonsense and balderdash. Masking where the email is sent is a direct violation of the US Federal CAN-SPAM law. Investigators like me routinely follow the money trail of spam like this to see who is benefitting from it.
Also, legalsender.com is a front for the send-safe spamgang out of Russia, and is itself hosted by Simon Wong, notorious spam hoster from Canada.
Simon Wong - legalsender.com, listsorcerer.com and others:
http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL19142
The send-safe spamware gang:
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/evidence.lasso?rokso_id=ROK2400
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/evidence.lasso?rokso_id=ROK3175
That you mention legalsender.com at all makes me say "hmmmmmm."
> But then you run the problem with your capture page...
> you will need to find one that is on bulletproof hosting otherwise you
> will be shut down quickly. This route is probably even more costly than
> the software.
And no safer at the end of the day. If you need a bullet-proof landing/capture page, it's because you're spamming a dirty purchased or harvested list. And investigators go to these capture pages, fill out the forms, and see who replies. If it's you, the deep doo-doo has just begun.
Who's telling you all these lies about bulletproof this and "legal" that?
Just stung a Power Profit Team spammer by the name of Kate Bell today by using exactly these techniques. She will not be pleased to be featured as a "spammer of the Week" on some web site.
> Having email addresses without IP's is a tricky business especially with
> all the new spam regs. My suggestion would be to leave them behind and
> start fresh.
Possessing a list of harvested email addresses is a felony now in Virginia. Do you know the pedigree of EVERY address you're holding?
> If you make up a capture page with an aweber form, you can advertise
> anywhere with it. I have had particular success using capture pages with
> ezine advertising. Just a suggestion.
Just don't use bulletproof capture pages, and drive traffic to them by using spam. Fastest way to get on the radar screen of the net cops, and lose the aweber autoresponder.
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