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Re: MLM Programs Like Kaeser & Blair...

Posted By: Mark <mtran2000@aol.com>
Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 10:44 a.m.

In Response To: MLM Programs Like Kaeser & Blair... (Nathan Haines)

Kaiser and Blair does seem to be a legit company with focus on moving promotional products that are needed for businesses at reasonable prices.

I also believe there are so many MLM startups because they are fairly easy to start and whoever starts them usually makes a lot of money before the company folds up or is shut down by authorities for illegal structure or practices.

Seems like below is the order in which things are done.

1) Find or invent a product. The most common is a vitamins since they are cheap to get produced and easy to hype up.

2) Get fancy brochures and marketing materials to get the ball rolling.

3)Hype up MLM pay plan and get people buying into get rich idea of the plan. Product value is secondary. I suspect a lot of MLMers don't even use a lot of the products.

4)Have rah rah meetings to promote opportunity and products. I suspect friends and relatives are used as shills for testimonials.

5) The owners take it for ride as long as it lasts, skim as much profit as they can before it gets shut down or they declare bankruptcy and walk away. Sometimes they start up again under new company name and do same thing again.

My take on MLM's, not to say there aren't some legit MLM companies out there but very few.

Mark

> Aren't bad. They sell products which real people actually buy, at real
> prices people will pay. So, no I'm not implying that MLM programs are
> inherently bad. MLM scams get more attention than other biz-op scams
> because, by their very nature, they recruit people. They get a bad rap
> more quickly.

> I don't think the commission structure, or chain selling nature, is the
> problem with MLM. I think it's the fact they , or at least the
> overwhelming majority, have no viable market to sell their products to.
> There's no one really buying double priced baby-diapers or $80 bottles of
> soap concentrate, other than hopeful biz op seekers.

> Secondly, I think chain selling, or referall marketing can be a very smart
> way to promote a product, and a lot of people don't bother to do it.

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Have you read MAAMAW'S CLICKY NOTES today?
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Do You Know What MLM Is? (views: 749)
Nathan Haines -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 8:59 a.m.
- Re: Do You Know What MLM Is? (views: 778)
  Jim Kaiser -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 9:27 a.m.
  - Re: Do You Know What MLM Is? (views: 756)
    Mark -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 10:22 a.m.
  - MLM Programs Like Kaeser & Blair... (views: 790)
    Nathan Haines -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 10:30 a.m.
    - Re: MLM Programs Like Kaeser & Blair... (views: 840)
      Mark -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 10:44 a.m.
      - Correction!! Kaeser & Blair is *not* MLM.... (views: 743)
        MaaMaw -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 11:18 a.m.
        
        Changed my mind! I see the "yeah but's" coming, so... (views: 731)
        MaaMaw -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 11:20 a.m.
        
        Exactly. And another reason it's not MLM (views: 760)
        Mr Bluto ^_^ -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 1:55 p.m.
        
        Yeah, but they're still *LEGALLY* MLM (views: 738)
        Nathan Haines -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 4:10 p.m.
        
        Re: Yeah, but they're still *LEGALLY* MLM (views: 776)
        Dennis Bevers -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 4:38 p.m.
        
        Re: Yeah, but they're still *LEGALLY* MLM (views: 749)
        Chris Bailey -- Monday, 7 August 2006, at 4:49 a.m.
        
        BINGO!! (DNO) (views: 708)
        MaaMaw -- Monday, 7 August 2006, at 8:06 a.m.
        
        No *BING*, You've Got It Wrong. (views: 801)
        Nathan Haines -- Monday, 7 August 2006, at 3:23 p.m.
        
        Re: No *BING*, You've Got It Wrong. (views: 746)
        Royce (from Canada, eh!) -- Tuesday, 8 August 2006, at 12:22 p.m.
        
        I could be *completely* wrong (and I don't have time or desire to go read the definitions)... (views: 748)
        MaaMaw -- Tuesday, 8 August 2006, at 12:32 p.m.
        
        Re: I could be *completely* wrong (and I don't have time or desire to go read the definitions)... (views: 790)
        Nathan Haines -- Tuesday, 8 August 2006, at 2:53 p.m.
        
        Re:Kaeser & Blair is *not* MLM....Another long one! (views: 1176)
        Dennis Bevers -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 2:35 p.m.
        
        :Kaeser & Blair A Legit Business Opportunity (views: 859)
        Mark -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 7:32 p.m.
  - O.T. -- Jim, I love your pictures! (views: 736)
    Jean -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 2:32 p.m.
- Couple minor disagreements (views: 725)
  Larry Foster -- Monday, 7 August 2006, at 6:14 a.m.
  - Re: Couple minor disagreements (views: 680)
    Nathan Haines -- Monday, 7 August 2006, at 3:11 p.m.
- MLM is like the state fair (views: 758)
  Robert N -- Monday, 7 August 2006, at 3:05 p.m.

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