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Posted By: MaaMaw
Tuesday, 21 February 2006, at 8:18 a.m.

In Response To: Ebay marketing question(s) (dallas)

Ooops, I was just playing.  Hope I didn't scare ya...

> Hello All!!!
> This is my 1st post on this board so… please be kind to the new kid :)

We're *always* nice to new kids who play nice :-D

And because the people on this board are exceedingly nice, you might actually get some answers -- but for the most part, successful eBayers aren't going to tell you where they get their merchandise.

They might say "liquidators" or "police auctions" or whatever, but they won't give you specifics, any more than your local Hallmark store will tell you where they buy the stuff you're just itching to get your hands on.

IMHOALE (In My Humble Opinon and Limited Experience), that's the *hardest* part of selling on eBay -- figuring out what to sell and where to get it.

Having said that, I'm not going to try to sell you IMC's course -- that would be much too pushy, since you've already said you aren't interested -- but for the benefit of others who may be considering it, I would like to comment on a few things you said:

> I went to a seminar
> held in my town a few years ago (by ebay) & the subject was mentioned
> but not really discussed. I have found a few sites that sell discounted
> truck loads and pallets but I'd like to know what others are using. If
> possible, I'd like to pass any unneeded pain in the process of growing
> this new venture.

I don't think there's any way to get around that particular pain.

For the record, though, I got an ebook from Gary Hendrickson about what to buy at garage sales, and it's fantastic!!  About a thousand times more useful to me (a total novice and Antique Challenged individual) than all the "collector's guides" I had already muddled through (no kidding, those things go in my eyeballs and out my nose without even taking a potty break!).

> I also understand that there are course (books) you can buy where the
> authors tout guaranteed success.

When they guarantee success, run for the nearest exit.  That should almost be a reflex... no conscious thought required.

There is a HUGE difference, however, in "guaranteeing success" and the kind of guarantee IMC offers.

The first one is obvious -- a straight no-questions-asked, money-back guarantee which they stand behind 100 percent:

The next one is a little trickier, but it is in NO WAY "guaranteeing success":They will pay you $200 if you try their techniques and you don't succeed -- if you can prove, within certain guidelines, that you have done so. 

They are NOT "guaranteeing success." 

In fact, this is repeated over and over again on their sales page in print that's actually big enough to read without a magnifiying glass:

Okay, so I took the long way around (again).  My point is simply that the course I rave about does NOT guarantee success (have I said that before?).

> Most
> of the people who write these books are not “doing” what they are telling
> others to do.

Very often true.

In this case, it was written in conjunction with one Brandon Dupsky, who is "doing it" every day.  HE is not in the information-selling business; he created the product with IMC, who IS in the information-selling business, and he went on about HIS business.

> If what they were telling me to do worked, why sell it and
> create competition when you can hire a few people and have them duplicate
> your time and you make even more from the duplicated efforts.

If I had a nickel for every time I've said that exact same thing, I'd be filthy rich by now.

I sell two courses from IMC (the company built by the Late, Great Corey Rudl).  Their business -- their ONLY business, and they make no bones about it -- is teaching people how to make money on the internet.

I venture to guess they still make a bundle on Corey's first product -- "Car Secrets" -- but after his success in that arena, he turned to teaching people how to do what he did (EXTREMELY successfully!) and he never looked back.

They are making millions every year doing exactly what they teach other people how to do.  You can't separate one from the other in their case (and they aren't the only ones, they just happen to be the best :-)

That's quite different than somebody who *claims* to be making millions creating and selling, ummmmmm, finger puppets, who then turns around and wants you to pay to find out how to do the same.  Many times, if you delved into it, you would find they sold a handful of finger puppets (sorry), packed 'em away, and decided to write a book about their "success" without ever trying to expand their finger-puppet market.

Then again, there are people who have been successful in a local business like auto detailing (Pete Egeler comes to mind), and they wrote a book about how to do it.  Like you said, there's nothing wrong with that.  Sure, Pete can duplicate his efforts locally -- maybe he's doing that, we don't know -- but what would his next step be... selling franchises nationwide? 

Personally, I don't have the business sense to do that.  I'd much rather write a book.

> I'll pass on the paid for
> knowlege and go to the "currently" successfull sources, even if
> it takes a little longer to glean the info. (my-2-pennies-on-that)

Good luck squeezing it out of them.  I really think it would take a special kind of idiot to share specifics.

> I have “nothing” against the folks who sell “How-To” books as most provide
> a source of good start info but the hype used to sell the info is often
> excessive.

No kidding!

But hype sells.

I can "hype" with the best of them, but I'm not comfortable doing that -- and look at me now; I have to scramble to make the mortgage every month!!

Hype is annoying, but it isn't evil as long as you make it perfectly clear that the results you're talking about are *NOT* TYPICAL.  (Now if I could just practice what I preach...)

> Time
> changes so what most "how-to" books said I should do, 2+ years
> ago when it was written, will not apply today.

For those who might be interested in IMC's eBay course -- it's brand, spankin' new.

> Add to that, most of what
> they sell, can be found for free (very easily) as I did from 1 article
> posted on this board after 1 hour or reading.

Yes, it's VERY *VERY* easy to find free information.

What isn't so easy is sorting out the good from the bad and consolidating the mountains of stuff you find to put it into some kind of usable form without suffocating your corpuskkles and neuron thingies from the sheer weight of the stuff.

For anybody who might be interested in IMC's course...

They do a bang-up job on "sourcing products."



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