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Re: Roadie, roadie, roadie...

Posted By: Bill Carton - the Roadie <wcarton@flash.net>
Thursday, 2 February 2006, at 9:54 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Roadie, roadie, roadie... (BenV)

> I have to chime in here... Out of every 10 people faced with an unethical
> situation where their job "security" is on the line, 7 are
> likely to "go with the flow". Out of those same 7, 5 would
> likely return a wallet to the owner with cash in tact. There are different
> levels of response to ethics questions, it isn't alway black and white.

Agreed. But these are employees who have ALREADY applied and been hired knowing the company is privately held, owned by a Marine who served in Vietnam and who founded Parsons Technology in 1994 (you might remember their products), and who has declared he's not going to offshore their jobs to India or elsewhere to save an additional buck. This generates a bit of loyalty.

> Now, for you to make a blanket statement about Developers being
> "good"

To be precise, I said: "Developers also have a sense of ethics." You're saying that sense might be bad.

> I can outright say that you are wrong.

I'm discussing GoDaddy culture and ethical guidance with a bit of inside knowledge, and you're expanding the straw-man argument to the entire population of developers. Of course, you can win that modified argument. Feel free.

> Who developed the
> pop-up ad?

Ethically-challenged scumbag low-life Internet abusing developers. Not GoDaddy employees. Not anybody I work with.

> Who developed the auto-responder?

Any number of people. If it was patentable, it would have been patented. Are autoresponders evil? Or are users who apply them to harvested address lists the evil ones?

> Who developed the link
> between a spider-bot and auto-responder (mass spam generator)?

Ethically-challenged scumbag low-life Internet abusing developers.

My, what a lively discussion we have going on the ethics of Internet abuse. Entire college level classes are taught on this exact subject.

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