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Re: I'm listening.... I want to do everything right and not step on any toes.... I have questions.....

Posted By: Randy Miller
Friday, 16 December 2005, at 1:45 p.m.

In Response To: I'm listening.... I want to do everything right and not step on any toes.... I have questions..... (MaaMaw)

> I don't have the skill to create gorgeous thumbnails like
> "Isidore" did.  My thumbnails suck bigtime ( see this page,
> three thumbnails near the bottom ).

You shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Only the copyright holder has
the legal right to modify the image.

> Those thumbnails are totally useless unless you click to see the original
> photo -- do you agree with that?

It's all in how you approach it. If you get permission first, things are dandy. If you just do it and the copyright holder discover's the fact, things are not so dandy.

> If those were thumbnails of your work and they led directly to the photo
> on your site, with your URL at the top, would you have the same problem
> with it as you do with the great thumbnails that Google shows?

I sincerly beleive that somewhere down the road that Google will be explaining
why it has the right to modify other's copyrighted work in front of a class-action jury.

> I understand and respect everything you're saying, but how can you promote
> your professional services over the internet if you don't show your work??

I do show work, feel free to visit my site and click on recent events. I know that stuff gets lifted, its just a cost of doing business. Business models are
changing because of this. It used to be customary to get a retainer with the balance of payment due upon delevery of proofs. Virtually no wedding photographer does this anymore, to easy to steal. We get paid up front. However, this opens the doors to scammers who take the money and run....

> (I'm not suggesting someone else should take it upon themselves to
> "show your work" without your permission -- just inquiring about
> the desire to keep it hidden.)

The desire is not to keep it hidden, but to protect the asset. Just like in your ebook thread below, I see you chose the hardcopy route because you didn't want your work copied and included in the "ALL THE EBOOKS ON EBAY" compilation. LOL. It's the same thing.

> Thanks for your input, guys... I'm enjoying the back-and-forth immensely!

Thanks for allowing it.

wedding photography

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