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Posted By: Bill Carton - the Roadie <wcarton@flash.net> In Response To: Mach 90 (Fresh)
Saturday, 5 November 2005, at 4:04 p.m.
> does anyone know about this at home business on whether its a scam or not.
> Since I first asked information about a few months ago supposedly 61
> others have become members since and at $35 a member I would have roughly
> $2,100 in commission if I would have signed up. That would be nice but I
> was wondering where the loophole was or what the probably catch is. Any
> help would be appreciated.
I'm *very* familiar with them. Mostly when I get their spamming members terminated. :-)
Mach 90 (along with $1.67 a Day) is what's called a downline building club for the Juvio MLM opportunity. Juvio is a legitimate operation with various real products such as PC tech support subscription service, training videos, nutritional stuff, etc. At least they have products. And they have an active anti-spam staff who applies a decent no-spam policy when violators get reported to them.
They had a HORRIBLE problem for about two years when Philippine members would harvest, trade, or sell address lists and send what's called blind spam. Spam were you had to reply to an email address to get more information. And their defense was that since they never mentioned Juvio in the FIRST email, then it wasn't spam.
Well, we're not so easily fooled. Of course it's spam - we call it two-stage spam. And Juvio would terminate members who did this. Except the spam-tracking investigator (like me) would have to sting the email dropbox to see who was BEHIND the spamming. Anyway, I do this, and Juvio terminated a few dozen members, and now they have almost no problem because the word spread. A FIB member was instrumental in sending me copies of their spam, and a LOT of it traced back to Juvio members.
So if you first heard of this operation by spam, please make sure to NEVER sign up under that member and enrich them.
So what's Mach90? A lot of teams found out that the way to motivate and scare people into upgrading from a free membership to the paid kind was to put them into one big honkin' downline called a powerline. Everybody lines up in a single file, and the trick is that the operation has an upgrade deadline. If you upgrade in time (every two weeks is a typical period), then you jump ahead of everybody who didn't upgrade. If they upgrade later, you own a piece of their revenue. It's a powerful upgrade tactic, that of fear of losing out. Of course, you never know how much you'd be losing out on, but a certain group of people are powerfully motivated by fear that everybody else is getting rich online EXCEPT THEM!
Mach90 is a team that administers this powerline concept, and charges a fee on top of the monthly Juvio fee. Many of the members then start spamming, but some don't. I'm not entirely sure how anybody is successful at this crap without resorting to spamming, but the claim is that many are doing OK. Of course, in the Philippines, an extra $50 a month is fantastic! In the US, it's not usually worth 10-20 hours a week harvesting addresses, running the risk that the Roadie is going to sting you, and then you lose it all, for the chance of making a few bucks extra.
If you want to learn more about the mother ship opportunity, check out www.juvio.com.
The loophole in your example is that a lot of folks sign up for a month or two, then drop out because they don't make their monthly fee back fast enough from growing their own downline, and they simply don't HAVE $35 a month to invest. Churn is a tremendous problem when people don't really need the products being offered, and they're in it for the expansion only. There's something in the Philipino culture that makes them especially gullible for this sort of stuff. Which is fine as long as they're not abusing the Internet to do it.
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