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Re: Why should we?

Posted By: P. Drammel
Tuesday, 26 July 2005, at 6:05 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Why should we? (Dennis Bevers)

> Sandy,

> I believe Mel.'s question was meant to be rhetorical. WHY? whould we be
> forced to resort to firewalls, anti-spam software, etc?

Sure, but rhetorical will never solve anything.

> Her point is that it's ridiculous to tolerate spam and spammers, excusing
> them for their unethical and illegal flouting of the laws, just because
> they can.

No one said I or anyone should or does tolerate or excuse spammers. BVut to worry about it constantly, unless you are a Roadie, is ridiculous and a waste of valuable life.

> The legitimate users of the internet pay higher costs for service to
> provide for the additional servers and bandwidth needed to accomodate the
> vast amount of unwanted spam tieing up the internet, and interfering with
> valid traffic.

> The spammers have no conscience against stealing your email address,
> slicing and dicing it, so the spam appears to come from you or other
> innocent consumers.

> A month or so previously, my inbox was being flooded by bounced emails
> being rejected by servers and recipient computers. Fortunately, my ISP
> understood that I wasn't the sender.

> eCommerce, banking, and even health care depend on the internet to carry
> reports between long distances. The spammers and scammers couldn't care
> less.

> Thankfully, Roadie and others like him are working, one spammer at a time
> to eliminate some of them from the www. Many companies hire legions of
> techies to do the same.

> If you want a great example of what unrestricted spam can do to the
> internet, just visit TLC's once thriving forum -
> http://msgboard.iverify.com/ to see the end result when no one stops the
> spammers. The legitimate posters, myself included, have moved on to other
> business forums where the spam is blocked and/or deleted.

> I'll get off my soapbox now.

> Dennis Bevers

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Bad idea: vigilante justice? (views: 906)
The Roadie -- Monday, 25 Julyy 2005, at 10:29 a.m.
- Re: Bad idea: vigilante justice? (views: 920)
  S. Tanna -- Monday, 25 July 2005, at 10:40 a.m.
- ANSWER: Get a spam filter (views: 1143)
  P. Drammel -- Monday, 25 July 2005, at 5:45 p.m.
  - Why should we? (views: 1052)
    Mel. White -- Monday, 25 July 2005, at 6:20 p.m.
    - Re: Why should we? (views: 850)
      Sandi Moses -- Monday, 25 July 2005, at 7:04 p.m.
      - Re: Why should we? (views: 950)
        Dennis Bevers -- Monday, 25 July 2005, at 8:51 p.m.
        
        Re: Why should we? (views: 860)
        P. Drammel -- Tuesday, 26 July 2005, at 6:05 a.m.
        
        But what no one has said except Sunil.... (views: 845)
        MaaMaw -- Tuesday, 26 July 2005, at 6:28 a.m.
        
        Re: except Sunil and you (views: 849)
        Dennis Bevers -- Tuesday, 26 July 2005, at 9:59 a.m.
        
        Re: But what no one has said except Sunil.... (views: 806)
        P. Drammel -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 9:49 a.m.
        
        I think you're hysterical, P. Drammel.... (views: 887)
        MaaMaw -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 1:10 p.m.
        
        Remember The Country Where It Happened (views: 823)
        Tom Brownsword -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 3:26 p.m.
        
        Russian Police Say Robbers Killed Spammer Kushnir (views: 828)
        The Roadie -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 3:53 p.m.
        
        Thanks For The Update / Clarification / Correction! [DNO] (views: 829)
        Tom Brownsword -- Thursday, 28 July 2005, at 2:50 p.m.
        
        Re: Who's to blame??? (views: 1078)
        Dennis Bevers -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 8:30 p.m.
        
        Choose how you live your life (views: 880)
        Steve MacLellan -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 3:35 p.m.
      - Exactly [DNO] (views: 836)
        P. Drammel -- Tuesday, 26 July 2005, at 6:06 a.m.
    - Because... (views: 895)
      P. Drammel -- Tuesday, 26 July 2005, at 6:00 a.m.
      - Your Approach Is Interesting, But... (views: 914)
        Tom Brownsword -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 3:35 p.m.
        
        Re: Your Approach Is Interesting, But... (views: 814)
        The Roadie -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 3:59 p.m.
        
        Dream on... (views: 795)
        P. Drammel -- Wednesday, 27 July 2005, at 5:03 p.m.

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