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Posted By: The Roadie <wcarton@flash.net> In Response To: Re: Interesting... (P. Drammel)
Sunday, 24 July 2005, at 7:48 p.m.
> Are they doing something illegal or is the company that hired them hiring
> you to catch them running legit businesses on company time/resources?
I'm usually on their butt for spamming, which is what gets them on my radar screen (me and 30,000 other network owners and admins). I never get approached by their employers first - it's usually a last resort to contact them with the proof that they're diverting corporate resources for private gain. I guess you missed the LLI (or was it EPI?) participant who was answering email and so forth from his job as a private contractor for the US Army Tank command in Michigan. He was certainly discussed a lot here a few months ago. That should fry anybody's butt; using government resources for private profit.
> How did you get into doing this online detective work? Did you have some
> training of any kind or did you just get into it on your own learning as
> you went along?
Teamwork and training from other like-minded folks. Starting about ten years ago a bunch of us hooked up into MMFool-takedown teams coordinated by the message forums at www.mmfhoh.org, the Make Money Fast Hall of Humiliation. Since then I hardly ever track MMFools, because they never make any money, and there are much bigger fish to fry. The rest comes with experience using the search engines, the anti-spam tools and archives, and coordinating a lot with peers in the Usenet newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email.
My largest anti-spam project was to get members of the DHS Club to quit using spam to recruit new members - archived at http://www.theclubbuiltonspam.com/
At one point in 2000-2001, they were responsible for 5-10% of the spam we were seeing on the net. The stuff that always asked you to reply to some address so you could "Grab a Free ID!" Now it's gone. The spam, that is. Not the DHS Club. They've gone legit.
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