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Posted By: MaaMaw In Response To: How to say it.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!.... Oh, and about writing your own testimonials.... (MaaMaw)
Sunday, 17 July 2005, at 6:35 p.m.
(Sorry, I tried to be tactful, I really really tried, but that's the most tactful BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I could muster up.)
Absolutely NO offense to you, Paul M. You deserve credit for *asking* before you cough up the cash.
Ho hum.
It seems appropriate to begin with a song (to the tune of "LoveStory") ...
I could go on for hours, but I won't.
First, a couple of things about the web page (1200aweek.com):
I can't help but notice that Kimberly's last name isn't mentioned anywhere. James refers to her only as, "My fiance, Kimberly." (Actually, James, you mean your "fiancee" unless Kimberly is a guy, but I digress.) Kimberly really got around for a while, and a lot of people on a lot of forums saw right through her "subtle" attempts to recruit Emerald Passport suckers. Maybe they felt it would be more productive to just show her pretty face and take her name out of the spotlight for a while... or maybe not.
That's just speculation on my part, so we'll move on to bigger and more absolutely *hysterical* things:
How closely did you read the testimonial?
Oh BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
You gotta love this. Here's the top of the page where James introduces himself (so there can be no mistake about who's doing the lying) (sorry, of course I meant who's doing the talking, not the lying) (slip of the tongue) (please excuse me):
I made screenshots because I'm sure they'll doctor it up as soon as they get here and realize they've made monkeys of themselves. (Truth be told, I hate to point that out because I'm sure it's discouraged at least a few people from falling prey to those deadly talons.)
Don't miss the lesson in this, Dear Kiddies: When you're going to fake a testimonial, you've gotta do it right.
So anyhoo...
What is the postcard scheme?
I have no clue.
At first glance, I assumed it was Emerald Passport (where they were making their fortune after they made their fortune in Liberty League International), but your profit on Emerald Passport is $1,000 per sale the last I heard, so their piddly-ass little profit of $2,960 for 38 sales in their first two weeks is pocket change for them -- just $77.90 per sale -- so I guess they're playing somewhere else now.
I should mention that they made, I believe, $9,000 in their first two weeks with Emerald Passport or so they said (actually that number could be wrong, but it was a bloomin' fortune -- that much I remember).
Okay, let me wrap things up...
If you go to Ye Old Archive #1 and search for messages posted by
kimberly
you'll get tons of threads to read, if you're so inclined.
If not, I will show you one example of how Kimberly (fianceE of James) makes everything look okay -- even losing $1,295:
On May 21, 2005, "Jay" posted this warning on FIB. Note this passage:
"Note: EPI only acknowledges a 72 hour period of which you can ask for your $1,295 back to you that you spent for the product itself--if you can't make a sale within 72 hours from purchasing it, you'll know if you have the skill to sell this or not!"
(I should mention that I have often referred to Kimberly as "Kimberly the Articulate," not because she's so brilliant but as a way to distinguish her from the other EPI idiots who have come here to recruit. In any case, apparently she isn't as smart as I thought, because she allowed that COPYRIGHTED post from FIB to be reproduced on her board without permission, but I'm getting off track again.)
So anyhoo, here is how Kimberly responded (on her own little board):
"Jay doesn't seem to be too bitter, which is a good thing. He is leaving himself open to learning his lesson and moving on -- a skill that most of us have to aquire at one time or another. I do have a few comments about what he specifically speaks about."
Learning his lesson?
A skill?
This is SO, SO, SO typical. He is relating his experience with a company where the VAST MAJORITY of people will lose money, and he is "open to learning his lesson"... and somehow, by association, he has come away with a new "skill." (Don't confuse this with a franchise where you have every reason to believe you will succeed.)
Okay, Kimberly, if you say so (and she does) (heavy sigh)...
"Some will be willing to open themselves up to working on themselves (most important thing in business) and doing what is necessary and others will resist for one reason or the other."
And those who fail in Emerald Passport fail because they are deficient or not willing to "work on themselves."
Also typical... you're the problem, not the fact that you're peddling crap or the fact that the entire system is designed to "feed your upline" and that's all your upline cares about -- getting those two sales and moving on to the next victim.
About the 72 hours, Kimberly says:
"Unfortunately there is no way to tell before someone enters the business. The good news is Jay walks away with a wonderful product that will keep increasing with value. If he were to use the product he would find that it is worth much more than the $6K he spent on his business attempt."
And if Jay has a lick of sense, he'll rejoice in his loss because...
Okay, let's get down to brass tacks.
Can you see what's happening here, Kiddies?
Maybe James and Kimberly's new site is somehow related to Emerald Passport and maybe it isn't. I can't imagine why they would move on from Emerald Passport when they were making money hand over fist...
Oh wait, maybe I can.
A *lot* of people followed them into Emerald Passport. I venture to guess some of those people made their money back -- in fact, a few of them probably even made a profit. And among those who lost money, I'm sure Kimberly and James have gained the trust of many who know that the *next* program will be the one that works!!
They can peddle their NEW stuff to all these people!
THEY HAVE A **HUMONGOUS** POOL TO DRAIN
...and drain it they will.
But Emerald Passport Shmerald Passport, here's the bottom line:
James is still James, and Kimberly is still Kimberly.
Oh yes...
Kimberly is up in the top one-third of my list. You know why? Because she pretends to be a friend to Newbies and Wannabes. She wants to "help them" achieve their dream.
This is nothing unusual -- it's how these people operate -- but she's good at it. She is Kimberly the Articulate, and she does what she does very, very well. She convinces people who don't know any better to trust her with their future.
And it makes me sick to think how many people are going to take food out of their kids' mouths to put a Porsche in her garage.
I have to go now; I'm feeling queasy.
Luv,
MaaMaw
P.S. You know what's funny about this (funny sick, not funny ha-ha)? Sometimes I think she actually *believes* what she says about helping people. It scares the bejeebers out of me how some people can rationalize their way into absolutely anything.
P.S. Again.... Obviously this is all just one person's opinion -- mine -- but if it helps just one potential victim hang onto their money and avoid becoming a biz-op statistic, it will be worth all the hassle with these damn disappearing formats and screenshots. (This is very, very odd.)
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