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Posted By: Clara
Tuesday, 24 May 2005, at 1:17 p.m.
Hi,
I'm trying to figure out if www.outbill.com is really whatit claims to be. It seems legit, but I'm so paranoid now after being scorched many times. I set up an account with them last Wednesday for payments to an online store to be made through their technology stuff and they said I have to pay $2000 in 7 days or the account will be closed. Well, when I look in my sales info in the account there have been some successful sales transactions from the store. I thought they would just deduct the $2000 since the sales are now in excess of $2000 but outbill.com said no, I have to send it via western union or bank transfer because they can't take money from the transactions. I basically just have until tomorrow to decide what to do. Is that typical? Or is this a trick and they'll take my $2000 and I'll never here from them again??
Secondly, I got info about this freewebsites site. They set up a site and do everything blah blah blah and they were having a promotion where you get the first two days free, because you see the profits before paying for your site. Well I did it yesterday to see what would happen.And when I click on the link they kindly provided me for my new store,I look at the stats and it does in fact seem like there have been a few thousand hits and a few sales. Now, if I am pleased with this, I should pay a weekly subscription fee which is a fractionof the sales I would make per week. But a) I pay them through paypal but they pay me by check. b)Before signing up I saw payoutevery seven days. After signing up it seems to be 90 days and when I asked the 24hour online support person she told me once a month.... I just don't know...
Sorry about being so long, but I really am so confused right now. I guess I dont trust myself to trust anything I see online. If anyonw can give me any info I'd really appreciate it. (After reading the warning I'm afraid to put my email addres)
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