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Posted By: Larry Foster <blackstonecap@yahoo.com>
Wednesday, 30 March 2005, at 7:38 a.m.

In Response To: LOL (TonyRush)

As far as the FTC approving your site, ask 2 famous Internet marketers who operated with integrity. Frank Kern and Stephan Pierce. Both operated how to make money on the internet but did NOT have the proper disclaimers. They were both whacked big time. I think Frank was something in excess of $200 thousand as well as having their assets frozen.
Both had very good products but they did not say "results may not be typical" Their sites were clear enough that only a dunderhead would read their ales letters and think they could be a millionaire with no effort. That didn't stop the FTC.
So, Tony, don't be too smug. Uncle Sugar isn't always a nice guy.

> role and that you really serve no function here except to display your
> negativity. :)

> The FTC doesn't "approve" advertising or give their stamp of
> approval on a particular business. Asking the Federal Trade Commission to
> "approve" your business is like asking a jeweler to approve your
> shoes.

> The truth is that we've actually had hundreds of people who have earned
> $250k in their first year. Some have earned quite a bit more. Many people
> earn more than $5,000 in their first month. (I did this my first week).

> So, given the fact that it's being done every day, no, it doesn't seem
> unreasonable to me to include those figures in the ad.

> But, you're also missing a basic point of marketing, so let me help you
> out: The purpose of my website is not instruction. It's for sorting. Quite
> candidly, I have no interest in spending time with everyone who thinks
> they want to be in business. I'm only looking for people who are dead
> serious about earning a six-figure income in the next 12 months.

> You see, I have no interest in talking to people who are looking for a way
> to earn an extra $500 a month. You can do that by delivering pizzas.
> That's not my market. And they're unlikely to leave their information
> after visiting our site.

> But, those who do get a followup call an all the information on the
> company, the products, the money and the opportunity.

> Evidently, the sorting process works fine. I'm able to market very
> efficiently without dealing with alot of tire-kickers. Plus, the main
> point is that your name isn't on my list and, if for no other reason
> alone, that's a good reason to keep the page just as it is. :)

> Tony Rush

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