Re: A question

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> The question was, why are the people who put up the merchants of deception
> site worried about being shut down by Quixtar IF what they are saying is
> true.
> Your strawman answer has nothing at all to do with the discussion.
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> Again, what point are you trying to make here? Are you trying to compare
> Alticor to drug dealers? Come on, at least try to be honest in your
> arguements.

You're questioning my honesty in an attempt to discredit my response or opinions? My responses were an analogies... to help put things into a perspective, as I was trying to point out that Right and Wrong are not always viewed by everyone from the same direction. It's why we have two political parties with some very different views on various subjects. Of course you are trying to sway the veiwpoint in your direction. However, just as with political veiwpoints, it is not likely that you're going to sway anyone that has a different veiwpoint, but only those that aren't as knowledgeable and may not have made up their mind as to what they believe to be true. So, just as I'm probably not going to change your mind in what your believe, neither will you change my mind in what I believe.

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> What is your source for this breaking news? Who says the government is
> again investigating Amway? Why would they?

The author of Merchants of Deception has stated that he has turned over information to the FBI and that "U.S. Assistant Attorney Wayne Samuelson recently confirmed an ongoing investigation." Of course, he must be lying as well? By posting such information, he could open himself to liable, if not criminal charges. He better have some convincing information for his allegations or he is headed for some serious trouble (with the government, not necessarily just Amway). He has a lot of exepts posted for download to make his case... one might wonder if he's just making this up or does he actually have a case against Amway? I guess we won't know until the government investigates and whether or not they bring charges for the courts decide...

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> And there are a lot of people losing money in every other type of business
> in existance as well. I addressed the average income issue in another post
> on this board but I would like to add one thing.

> People who promote non-MLM business opportunities don't disclose average
> incomes because they don't have to. MLM's are required to do so.

> People who promote non-MLM business opportunities often make outrageous
> income claims because they don't have to provide any proof. MLM's are
> forbidden from making income claims UNLESS they provide specific
> information regarding how they developed the numbers.

On the above points, you are not completely correct and it may vary from state to state to some degree. And biz-ops may be required to register with some states if they charge over $500 for a course or make certain earnings claims. You can find more information regarding this from your state, the FTC and other government sites. Of course, the FTC warns of skepticism for anyone making claims of certain earning potentials.

> Still there are those within the MLM industry who continue to make
> unsupported income claims and who continue to break the rules. They don't
> last long in the industry, but they are always the one pointed to by
> people like you, Jim, who try to paint everyone in the industry with the
> same brush.

I do my homework. It's my brush... I'll paint it the way I see it. You can use your brush to paint it whatever color you want.

> Regardless of what you would like everyone to believe, the entire MLM
> industry isn't bad. Regardless of what you would like everyone to believe,
> Quixtar as a whole isn't the great demon. There are some who don't do it
> right. They end up on Dateline claiming (on video tape mine you) that they
> make a quarter million a year. Luckily they don't last that long.

Point well taken. They're definitely the ones that need to be put out of business.