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I gotta agree with Larry

Posted By: Dave Mauder (eDave) <dave@NOSPAMmauder.com>
Sunday, 27 March 2005, at 2:08 a.m.

In Response To: Is there anything that you won't blast? (Dustin)

Hi Dustin:

I have to agree with everthing Larry said. When people come here with a positive attitude, post legitimate questions, and provide constructive input, they get the same in return. But when people come here slamming the other members right out of the gate, they will typically get slammed in return.

It's the ol' Golden Rule I guess...

I've seen people come here and just repeatedly post questions like:

-- What does everyone think of "opportunity XYZ"?? --

Now, how constructive is that? In most cases, if that person would have spent a little time on their own, they would have disovered several threads where XYZ was already discussed, or they could have found other information online and came here for validation by saying something like, "I heard/read about company XYZ....and was wondering what others know about it..."

With regard to your post - I can only speak from my personal experience with Quixtar (Amway) and it was never good. I lost several friends over Quixtar because they felt I was ignorant for not pursuing the opportunity the same way they did. Long story short...I later found out my best friend had been flat out lying to me about his income from the business, and found himself out of a job (layed off) and deep in debt because of Quixtar and all the meetings, books and tapes he had been pouring money into. But whenever I would ask him about how much money he was spending on that stuff, he always responded with something like, "You have to plug into the system if you want to be successful".

I was also told by a Diamond distributor years ago that they make far more money from the sale of books, tapes and CD's than they do from Amway products. Kinda makes sense considering Dexter Yeager has his own separate company just to produce most of the motivational products used in the business. And he's not the only one who does that either!

I also used to work with a lady who was VERY dedicated to the business with her husband who was also a great salesman. They definitely lived by the 3-foot rule because you couldn't get near either one of them without having a tape or CD stuffed in your face. End result...they alienated pretty much everyone they knew, including family. Recently, I found out they are both out looking for additional work because they've done nothing but lose money in the business.

Well, that's my 2-cents for what it's worth. Unfortunately, I don't think you will get much positive feedback with regard to MLM opportunities here. Most of the people here have been burned in the past by MLM and probably don't have anything positive to share about it. I've been in and out of more MLM's than I can to remember, and there isn't a single positive experience that I could share, other than a few great people I met along the way.

Dave

> I have come to find that online forums are pointless. Absolutely
> pointless. Everyone always listens to the cynics. All there really is out
> there anymore. Nothing is a good oppurtunity because everyone always
> brings out the bad in it.

> For example Quixtar. Great company slow but steady compensation plan. Bad
> people at the top trying

> to sell "OPTIONAL" empowering information. They have good
> products and a great affiliate marketing program. Actually the best
> affilliate marketing program I know of with all their partner stores.

> Seriously though people don't look at anything good anymore and everyone
> blasts everything. Go to mlm.com or here. Everyone knows everything. My
> question is what would you do? What is worth it? If you don't like mlm or
> home based business why do you bother stepping in here and saying
> anything.

> It is all about mindset and attitude. Read a book called Rich Dad Poor
> Dad. I garuntee you most of you people here would get mad at reading what
> he has to say. I am pretty tired of people going around saying that is bad
> or this is stupid unless it is something that is blatantly a scam. What I
> mean by that is something people have no "OPPURTUNITY" to make
> money doing. Companies like Quixtar are not a scam. They are legit
> companies. Companies like Aussie two ups and HYIP programs are scams and
> schemes. Quit defaming oppurtunities just because you do not think you can
> be successful with them. Chances are you cynics are not successful at
> anything because nothing is ever good enough because it does not just hand
> money over to you like working your pointless job. I say pointless because
> it is not going to take you where you would like to go in the long run. I
> love working, but I got into this business so I would have an out. That
> did not mean live off of my network marketing pay check. That meant use my
> network marketing money to invest into my assests and retirement.

> Anyway for once try and tell me something positive that you would do
> instead of what is wrong with what everyone else is doing.

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