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Posted By: Larry In Response To: Is there anything that you won't blast? (Dustin)
Saturday, 26 March 2005, at 9:05 p.m.
Dustin, sincerely, please help me follow your line of reasoning.
You state (see your post below), "I have come to find that online forums are pointless." and yet you continue to type your post here. Then why comment about anything on this board and post the link to your business site if posting here is as pointless as you state.
You also state, "Everyone always listens to the cynics." If that were totally true, many of the regulars here would not have their own successful businesses nor would any visitors to this site (looking for assistance to start their own businesses) start a business if they truly 'listened to the cynics.'
You state, "Nothing is a good oppurtunity because everyone always brings out the bad in it." I am sure that some cynics think this way. Bt please stop and think about what you just said. Are you telling everyone on this board that EVERY business opportunity that you (or anyone of us) has ever looked at should be accepted without a healthy bit of skepticism? I am sure that you don't mean that because I have to believe that you have seen 'biz opps' that have set off flags in your head where they may not be all that they are cracked up to be and therefore you too shared the 'bad' in it that you found with family, friends, and other forum posters. Give people the benefit of the doubt that they too, like you, can best decide what is a 'good' and 'bad' biz opp and can share that info here. Just because someone shares negative info about any business doesn't make them cynics. They may be skeptical of the business and want to be sure people are looking at both sides.
You state, "Seriously though people don't look at anything good anymore and everyone blasts everything." You have to know that this is not accurate. After all, if you are coming here and posting (and I assume posting on other forums) and you are submitting advice to others about what is good or bad, and other people join you in your business, then some people must be looking and some people must not be blasting what you offer. I find it interesting that you would come here and post this and yet include the link to your website if you truly believed the above quote.
You stated, "Go to mlm.com or here." I can understand your frustration and annoyance with mlm.com as the MLM.com site owners posted this about you:
http://www.mlm.com/mlm/user/viewthread?thread=3574
Obviously, they own the board and they have a right to include or exclude anyone on their board for any reason they see fit just like any owner of any forum. But I fail to see your frustration here. There are many people who post here...Direct Marketers, Internet Marketers, and MLM people who offer great advice on what is and isn't a good business idea. You and others may think that certain businesses are good but others have differing opinions and as always, people have a right to their opinion and a right to share it within the parameters of the rules of this (and other) forum(s). Just because people disagree with you OR me, doesn't make their opinions wrong.
I do agree with you (somewhat) when you say, "Chances are you cynics are not successful at anything because nothing is ever good enough..." I have met many cynics in my decades of being in business. Naysayers who truly believed that I could not and would not succeed. They are still cynics and were wrong whereas I am successful in what I do. However, I encourage you not to paint EVERYONE here (or anywhere else) with the cynic brush. There may be a few posters here who try to find fault with EVERYTHING, but only a few. My favorite people to deal with are skeptics (different from cynics). I have learned volumes from them and some of them will confess that they too have learned volumes from me. Healthy feeback (yes,even skepticism :) should be encouraged by every business owner as it keeps you on your toes and helps you learn how to better market to society.
And finally, you end your post with this, "Anyway for once try and tell me something positive that you would do instead of what is wrong with what everyone else is doing." You must also follow your own advice. You posted generalities all through your post insulting many of the readers and regulars here, and then ask that readers give you "...something positive..." As someone once wrote, "Physician...heal thyself!" :) You would get (and deserve) more help if you did not come on this forum and post what you just did. You should have considered starting with what you have learned from this forum (and others) and then ask for help but specifically asked what you were looking for.
I truly wish you good luck in all that you do.
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> I have come to find that online forums are pointless. Absolutely
> pointless. Everyone always listens to the cynics. All there really is out
> there anymore. Nothing is a good oppurtunity because everyone always
> brings out the bad in it.
> For example Quixtar. Great company slow but steady compensation plan. Bad
> people at the top trying
> to sell "OPTIONAL" empowering information. They have good
> products and a great affiliate marketing program. Actually the best
> affilliate marketing program I know of with all their partner stores.
> Seriously though people don't look at anything good anymore and everyone
> blasts everything. Go to mlm.com or here. Everyone knows everything. My
> question is what would you do? What is worth it? If you don't like mlm or
> home based business why do you bother stepping in here and saying
> anything.
> It is all about mindset and attitude. Read a book called Rich Dad Poor
> Dad. I garuntee you most of you people here would get mad at reading what
> he has to say. I am pretty tired of people going around saying that is bad
> or this is stupid unless it is something that is blatantly a scam. What I
> mean by that is something people have no "OPPURTUNITY" to make
> money doing. Companies like Quixtar are not a scam. They are legit
> companies. Companies like Aussie two ups and HYIP programs are scams and
> schemes. Quit defaming oppurtunities just because you do not think you can
> be successful with them. Chances are you cynics are not successful at
> anything because nothing is ever good enough because it does not just hand
> money over to you like working your pointless job. I say pointless because
> it is not going to take you where you would like to go in the long run. I
> love working, but I got into this business so I would have an out. That
> did not mean live off of my network marketing pay check. That meant use my
> network marketing money to invest into my assests and retirement.
> Anyway for once try and tell me something positive that you would do
> instead of what is wrong with what everyone else is doing.
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