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Posted By: MaaMaw In Response To: Re: I Know Some of Those You Are Speaking Of...... (DaveB)
Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 9:22 a.m.
> Correcto!. I'm the one that started the thread about Corey Rudl. I was
> accused of calling him a scammer which I did not.
I just read that whole thread, and unless my glasses are worse than I thought, you didn't get accused of calling him a scammer. In fact, everybody (even me, a diehard Corey fan) agreed with at least some part of what you said.
> These self proclaimed "gurus" are
> suspicious to me for many resaons.
You may be talking about the same kind of self-proclaimed guru I was talking about when I started this post. Lest someone not-so-knowledgeable lump Corey Rudl in that category:
He isn't a self-proclaimed guru.
He's the real deal.
He hasn't made his $40 million (number grabbed from your post; I haven' seen his income tax forms, bwahahahahaha!) with a "web site on autopilot." He has several employees working the business, and (gag me with a spoon) over 70,000 affiliates! (I am often amazed that I'm able to sell *any* of his courses!! It's just SO ridiculous -- plus he competes with his own affiliates by offering all the best new stuff to "his" customers first... customers he would not have had without his loyal affiliates selling them their first product, but DON'T GET ME STARTED!!!)...
Where the hell was I?
Oh yes...
His first major success was Car Secrets, on which he made a major bundle.
This is someone who has been there, done that, and knows everything he teaches first-hand.
He ain't goin' noplace (no how).
> Why do they go away? Cuz they probably
> didn't trick enough people. If I made 40 million dollars on the internet
> with an autopilot website I would never quit!
No kidding!!
To clarify a bit... I think the people I'm talking about would fall more into the "Self-Proclaimed Star" category than "Self-Proclaimed Guru" category, although I'm not sure you can separate the two.
What I know is that claims of their success must have been greatly exaggerated.
I just thought of another one... a very, VERY nice guy who was selling a particular product with INCREDIBLE success. In fact, the demand was SO great that he suffered sudden growing pains (which I can easily believe, since the same thing happened to me many times in my offline business) --
He suddenly wasn't able to make payments to his affiliates (of which I was one), but at least some of us kept right on referring people because he was still filling orders (at least I think he was), and as for getting paid... well, he was just catching up with the EXPLOSION, dontcha know...
Then he was gone.
Call me a dreamer, but I thought once I reached that level of success, I would be able to hire WORKER BEES to HELP me fulfill that bottomless worldwide demand for my product and pay the people who peddled it???
> The most valuable
> information I have received about internet marketing is right here and on
> several other forums. No one has a big axe to grind. People like Michael
> Mayhew, Dave Mauder, Chuck Huckaby, Rooster, The Big Dog, Peter Egeler,
> Dennis Beavers and of course Maawaw and a bunch of others! These are the
> people to listen to, forget the billion dollar "gurus".
Thank you, Kind Sir... but best to listen to me *after* I get myself up to a living wage. Then I can say, "Been there, done that."
Luv,
MaaMaw
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