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Re: Is He Really A Mentor If You Have To Pay?

Posted By: Nancy
Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 4:25 a.m.

In Response To: Is He Really A Mentor If You Have To Pay? (Tom Brownsword)

I TOTALLY agree with you. 100%

> I, for one, am a bit disgusted at the use of the word "mentor"
> in conjunction with these "coaching opportunities" for which the
> coachee must pay thousands of dollars.

> Here's Tom's take on the whole thing:

> 1. Only one person is guaranteed to make money in these ventures: the
> coach. As Brian Tracy says on one of his CDs, if a man with experience
> meets a man with money, the man with the experience will end up with the
> money -- and the man with the money will end up with the experience.

> 2. A mentor does what he does without additional charges. A mentor can be
> someone at work, someone you find on the Internet, someone at your place
> of worship, or even your next door neighbor. I think it would be
> reasonable to expect to pay for materials used (such as books and the
> occasional meal at a restaurant when you meet -- to not do so would be
> quite disrespectful), but a mentor, by the true definition of the word,
> doesn't charge for his time.

> 3. If all of these coaching opportunities are so good (and pardon my
> screaming), THEN WHY IN THE WORLD DO THEY CHARGE MONEY? WHY NOT DO A
> JOINT VENTURE WHERE THE PERSON BEING MENTORED AGREES TO FORK OVER 50% OF
> THE PROFITS FROM THE FIRST WEB SITE FOREVER? . Put your money where your
> mouth is. If you're that good, then assume some risk yourself, Coach.

> 4. A better plan? Purchase the $197 course , frequent a good discussion
> board or three, and ask honest questions at the board when you're stumped.
> And learn whom you can trust at those boards. Besides, if the course is
> legit, you should be able to e-mail the author if you have questions.

> The last thing you need to do when you are experiencing financial
> pressures is to have to fork over thousands of dollars to someone you've
> only heard about on the Internet in the hope that you'll learn how to do
> it right. Better to buy that $197 course (especially this one - I do own
> it, but that's MaaMaw's link, not mine) because you will get a good
> understanding of what it takes to be successful online, and at the very
> least, you'll end up smarter, but only $197 poorer.

> Just my opinion,
> Tom

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