Re: Emerald Passport Help

Bill-
You are Wrong about EPI not doing anything about spammers. You might want to do a little bit more investigating about EPI's spamming practices before stating such things about the EPI business.

I know of an EPI distributor that was busted by EPI for spamming. They have a very strict policy against spammers and I have copied and pasted the policy right here, directly from epassportinc.com :

The Company has a zero tolerance policy regarding spamming by its members. Be advised that spamming activity of any kind is grounds for immediate termination of the distributorship. The company will provide a platform to answer complaints relating to e-mail activity and concerned Members will be given a chance to address these complaints (admin@epibiz.com). In the event the distributor is caught spamming he/she will be removed from the program. EPI has a ZERO TOLERANCE spam policy. Anyone spamming with the EPI name (in any way) or referring to any of our web sites may be immediately terminated, losing their position. If you violate this policy and it causes damage or loss to our servers, or causes one (or more) of our web sites to be interrupted from normal service, you will be held liable for damages and loss of business.

Spam/spamming definition:
· Sending any e-mail with the EPI name, or any of our web site addresses, to anyone that has not requested this information from you first.
· Sending any e-mail with the EPI name or any of our web site addresses, to any type of "Safe List" or through any type of "Safe List" service.
· Sending any e-mail with the EPI name or any of our web site addresses, to any type of "lead" or "prospect" before you have received a request for more info from
· Sending any e-mail with the EPI name or any of our web site addresses, as part of a confirmation/thank you letter as a result of a posting to a classified ad site or a FFA (Free For All Links) site.

As long as the EPI or any of our web site addresses, are not mentioned in any way, or are not in any way linked to EPI, you may pursue any advertising that you wish, or e-mail anything that you wish, that is strictly your business.

If you are pursuing some type of opt-in advertising, there is always a chance that you will still generate a complaint. Design your ads to get the prospect to respond for more information. At that point, the spam issue is not relevant, as long as you can produce a copy of the specific request to refute any complaints that we might receive. If you spam, even if EPI name, products or services are not directly involved in it but it still resulted in a complaint, you will:

Have your account terminated immediately without refund and notice.
Charged a $500 USD cleanup fee.
Be reported to your own provider by us as a spammer, where they will presumably terminate your account as well.
Be reported to authorities.

Their policy can't get any clearer than that.

> Well, what I meant to do was spammer bashing. :-)

> I have to admit that non-spamming Emerald Passport members never get onto
> my radar screen. So ONLY the spammers come to my attention.

> But the BIG PROBLEM is: Emerald Passport doesn't care to accept or
> investigate spam reports and jettison their abusive members. They want the
> business that the spammers bring in as well as the good members like you.

> That taints the entire operation in my eyes. They can't have it both ways,
> just like an ISP or hosting company can't have both spamers and
> non-spammers as customers. Their peers won't stand for it, and will
> quickly decline to carry their traffic, and they get blacklisted. Then the
> non-spammer customers get up in arms, and the ISP either gets with the
> program and dumps the abusive customers, or they declare to all that they
> want spammer money more than they want to be thought of as good
> net-neighbors.

> By doing nothing about their spamming members, Emerald Passport is
> declaring itself to be on the spammy side of the shared resource we depend
> on to remain useful.

> Great. Then you must not be part of the ATeam.

> The Emerald Passport organization is at fault for not getting rid of the
> bad apples, or making sure they have an incentive to not spam in the first
> place. A few terminations might serve as an example to others.

> But they do nothing. As if it's not their job to police their abusive
> members. We don't play that game anymore. Organizations who are lax on
> spammers acquire the reputation they deserve. Would you have it any other
> way?

> Maybe you want to take this up with HQ?

> If you hate being compared to your abusive colleagues, perhaps there's
> something you can do? "All it takes for Evil to prevail in this world
> is for enough good men to do nothing."

> And headquarters looks the other way and does nothing. See the problem?

> Thanks so much for your defense of your way of promoting EPI. Sounds like
> you're doing the right thing. Now how about the bad apples? Why does EPI
> embrace them and look the other way?