Kimberly, John wouldn't be in the middle of anything if you would lay off....

I do hate to be rude, but I'm really sick of arguing with you.

> Maw, I want to point out something you may not even have realized.
> Sounds to me like you are encouraging him to quit!

I know exactly what I said, and I meant exactly what I said.

I am not encouraging him to quit his DREAM. I am encouraging him to quit giving money to "programs" that exist to empty his wallet. Some people make money in the process and that's lovely for them, but the vast majority do not. These things are designed to plump the upline's wallet.

(BTW, here's an interesting thing I plucked right out of an ad a few years ago: "The Multilevel Company always makes money. ALWAYS! No matter if not a single distributor makes money, the company ALWAYS MAKES MONEY!. That's because the company is in the top position. Every distributor sale is dollars in your pocket! .... The beauty of MLM is the fantastic amounts of money that can be made offering almost any viable product or service. People are eager to join MLM programs. Some people are involved in dozens! All are willing to spend their money advertising and marketing your products! That's the beauty of having your own MLM company. You can start for peanuts -- let other people finance your enterprise..... I reasoned that if I were ever going to make money, multilevel offered the quickest and best chance to score big-time. I also knew it can take years to make money as a distributor for another company." Let other people finance your enterprise... gotta love it!)

> So many businesses that
> start out, are in debt for quite a while. I know many people who own store
> fronts and restaurants. They are lucky if they break even in 3 years, and
> even more grateful if it happens sooner!

You're comparing apples to kumquats. It's ridiculous.

> Whether John
> looks at the business or not, I wouldn't want anyone telling him to stop
> dreaming!

I'm sure you're thinking only of him.

> We struggled a while, but when it finally clicked, it never
> stopped.

Some people are very good at this, and they are often able to build a downline that will follow them from one pile of doo-doo to another. Their flock just keeps scraping their shoes and moving on to the next pile -- confident that their upline wouldn't steer them wrong and the money is right under the next turd. The company folds (or gets shut down), and a new opportunity materializes -- but this one's better!

Aaahhhh, sweet success!

> This kind of business or any for that matter is hard work to get
> started.

Then the company should not say they do all the work for you, should they? That is misleading, don't you think?

(That's a rhetorical question. I really don't care what you think.)

> But don't squash someone else's
> because you don't agree with it!

Network marketing has already bled the man dry. It's time to put on the brakes and keep his money where it belongs -- in his OWN pocket.

> All dreamers are ever told is to get real. I have been told that all my
> life, and I can't stand it.

Me too, and I can't stand it either. Did you notice I did NOT tell John that??

I just think it's very sad that the operators of these programs, and the successful few, are so skilled at manipulating people and using their dreams to separate them from their money. It brings out my nasty side every time.

Luv,