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Re: Some suggestions

Posted By: The Roadie <wcarton@flash.net>
Friday, 3 December 2004, at 12:42 p.m.

In Response To: Some suggestions (Mel. White)

> Since you have that account information, contact the Brookline county
> courthouse and ask about filing a lawsuit/claims. You'll need a bit of
> legal advice; the best way to get it (if you don't know any lawyers) is to
> go down to your own county courthouse and spin a tale of woe to the clerks
> there and ask them how to proceed. They (usually) tend to be a little more
> sympathetic than the bigger guys.

This is one way to proceed, if law enforcement refuses to act since you were defrauded out of (relatively) a small amount. They are resource limited themselves, and have to do triage on cases according to economic loss. I believe the FBI threshold is like $50,000.

But seriously, you will spend hundreds of dollars on private detectives to even find her to server the lawsuit papers. If she isn't properly served, you might never get to court. A professional con artist, to survive, has to be a professional evader.

> There are ways of tracking these people down; the most effective is a
> private detective, but they're expensive. There's software out there to do
> this but for the most part it isn't worth the money.

Agreed. Google searches are often just as good for on-line crooks. For Ebay and real world crooks, they might not leave a good trail of clues in the on-line world.

> Also... did you talk to your bank (since another bank was involved, they
> might partner with that other bank to help on this)? Sometimes they have a
> good idea of who to contact and how to do an effective contact.

> It's sad that the honest folk can be robbed by scumbags like that. I
> suspect that she's run this fraud before.

For certain.

> Roadie may show up and post some suggestions (he's good at tracking things
> down) and I'll also see what I can do to find out about tracking software.

Email me what you have and I'll see what shows up, but the data bases I use are much fuller of on-line MLM con artists, make money fast pyramid schemers, and plain old garden variety spammers.

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