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Re: KIM, I decided to listen to the presentation and it gave me a haddock.....

Posted By: Mark <mjackson@295.ca>
Friday, 12 November 2004, at 8:59 a.m.

In Response To: KIM, I decided to listen to the presentation and it gave me a haddock..... (MaaMaw)

If this is Liberty League you definitely need to stay away. I to listened to the presentation. There is no way to test the value of the product, but I think the product is just away to add legitamacy to the company. This is just an exchange of money and eventually the law will catch up with them. There are many free oportunities to get involved with. Don't let the dollar signs blind you.

> and I was positively OVERWHELMED with a creepy sense of deja vu.

> Several things made my whiskers twitch.

> I don't have time to go into detail, but one was the list of testimonials
> on the left side; I just don't believe it's that easy to "generate
> $51,000," and I most certainly don't believe "everyone
> wants" a product that costs $1,295 -- especially a product with that
> "vague" feeling. (Yes, it still felt vague to me, even after it
> was explained.)

> Another one was the first recorded Q&A session when someone asked,
> "Where are you incorporated?" and the distributor went into a
> song-and-dance about being "truly an international
> organization." I didn't hear the answer, but maybe I just missed it.
> (I was expecting him to say Nevada, silly me.)

> This is just my opinion, mind you.

> I am not saying you haven't made the kind of money you claim to have made,
> and I'm not saying you won't get rich with it. I'm just saying it isn't
> something I would want to do, and I would DEARLY LOVE IT if some other
> FIBers would listen to the pitch and give their opinions right here for
> all to see.

> I haven't banned your link, Kimberly, and don't plan to -- but letting it
> run unchallenged makes me queasy.

> I can't bring myself to post it again, so please, Formerly-Burned Ones...

> go to one of Kim's posts, click on the link, put some gibberish into the
> "lead capture" page (which Kim herself invited us to do), and
> listen away....

> Then come back and let's give it the old FIB analysis.

> Luv,

> MaaMaw

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