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Posted By: Bill Carton - the Roadie <wcarton@flash.net> In Response To: Trademark Infringement - TOTAL befuddlemitification.... (MaaMaw)
Wednesday, 6 September 2006, at 3:55 p.m.
> The letter says this page infringes in these ways:
> 1. "...not allowed to use (S M C etc.) or any wording that might lead
> people to believe that your site is endorsed by or representative of S M
> C.
> (I don't see how it does that.)
> 2. "Your meta/title tags may not contain (S M C etc.)..."
> (Sorry, I forgot about it. I knew that.)
> 3. "The wording, appearance and design of your advertisements and
> website must not create the impresion of such an endorsement. You must not
> use our registered trademark... to market and/or advertise your
> business."
> (Is that what I'm doing? I was trying to tell people I thought it was a
> legitimate opportunity.)
> They specifically cited the paragraphs saying "contact Mike
> Warner" if you want to test the waters as a subdealer.
> It's the ending that confuses me (and worries me with regard to other
> sites and other pages):
> "I need to ask you to address these issues and remove these and all
> references to S M C from your site as soon as possible."
> ALL references?
> EX-SQUEEZE ME?
> I thought it was only if I gave the appearance of being endorsed by, or
> representative of, their company -- which I don't believe I do even on the
> page I'm going to toast.
> There are "reviews" of S M C all over the net.
> Is there a difference I'm missing?
http://chillingeffects.org/trademark/faq.cgi
# Non-commercial Use
If no income is solicited or earned by using someone else's mark, this use is not normally infringement. Trademark rights protect consumers from purchasing inferior goods because of false labeling. If no goods or services are being offered, or the goods would not be confused with those of the mark owner, or if the term is being used in a literary sense, but not to label or otherwise identify the origin of other goods or services, then the term is not being used commercially.
# Product Comparison and News Reporting
Even in a commercial use, you can refer to someone else’s goods by their trademarked name when comparing them to other products. News reporting is also exempt.
"Question: I want to complain about a company. Can I use their name and logo?
Answer: Yes. While trademark law prevents you from using someone else's trademark to sell your competing products (you can't make and sell your own "Rolex" watches or name your blog "Newsweek"), it doesn't stop you from using the trademark to refer to the trademark owner or its products (offering repair services for Rolex watches or criticizing Newsweek's editorial decisions). That kind of use, known as "nominative fair use," is permitted if using the trademark is necessary to identify the products, services, or company you're talking about, and you don't use the mark to suggest the company endorses you. In general, this means you can use the company name in your review so people know which company or product you're complaining about. You can even use the trademark in a domain name (like walmartsucks.com), so long as it's clear that you're not claiming to be or speak for the company.
Since trademark law is designed to protect against consumer confusion, non-commercial uses are even more likely to be fair. Be aware that advertising may give a "commercial" character to your site, and some courts have even gone so far as to say that links to commercial sites makes a site commercial. "
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