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Re: not precisely MLM, but still crap

Posted By: Stillookin <afsyt@aol.com>
Thursday, 8 June 2006, at 12:37 p.m.

In Response To: not precisely MLM, but still crap (Bill Carton - the Roadie)

> To be precise, direct sales like Aussie 1-up and 2-up systems, where your
> first sales go to your upstream, not you, are not real MLMs.

> They can be abusive rip-offs just like the worst MLMs, but you do NOT make
> any money from your downline's continuing sales, after the first 1 or 2
> hits. Multi-level is a term reserved for systems where you get a cut of
> sales below you, MULTI-levels deep. This doesn't fit the definition.

> Of course, Aussie 1-up and 2-up systems were DESIGNED by clever former MLM
> folks even who observe that participants who are eventually burn out are
> going to make 1 or 2 sales, even of overpriced goods like
> motivational/training crud. So the 1-up system bleeds these
> participant/victims for all the profit they're ever going to deliver, then
> they leave, disillusioned.

> And a look at the commission rate ($500 out of a $595 product) should be
> another instant clue that the product is a ripoff. It's just put there to
> keep the FTC from investigating the operation as a total scam-o-rama.

> Just like the parade of others who have come through here in the last few
> years.

Have to say that this has been pretty disillusioning (good learning experience though). The person who sent me the info about them (a personal friend), passed it on from someone who he said he trusted. If this is the kind of operation that's passed on by "trustworthy" people it really IS a jungle out there! Kind of stinks actually. Haven't asked him where he heard of it yet.

All of the above has convinced me to try an Affiliate program. At least that way I can choose what products to sell...and make sure that there actually IS a product to sell! That said, I've heard a lot of good things about Rosilind Gardner's Affiliate Marketing book, some of it on this site. Maybe I should start a new thread but does anyone have any input about it? One of the negatives I saw posted here is that it hadn't been updated. I checked, and, as of May something it has been. At any rate it doesn't cost 600 bucks!

I appreciate all of the input.

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