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Posted By: Larry In Response To: Is Reliv a scam or for real? They want so much money. (Jim Wright)
Wednesday, 7 June 2006, at 12:24 a.m.
Hello Jim,
You may want to try over at MLM.com and look up a guy by the name of Mike Michelozzi. He seems to be a very informed person on all things with Reliv and from reading his various posts on different boards, he seems to be level headed when talking about Reliv. I am positive that you will get any remaining questions about Reliv answered by Mike.
Asking for a huge amount of money up front can usually put huge read flags up for any of these types of businesses as I am sure you are sensing yourself. But what they usually tell you is, "If you started a __________(put any franchise in the blank) you would have to start with products to sell wouldn't you? That is why we ask you to pay so much." You will also get the line, "Well, we just want to see if you are serious about doing business with us. We only work with people that are serious." Just thought I'd warn you about the standard lines you will get. To be fair, when someone does plunk down a sizeable sum for a business, they are less likely to treat it as a hobby and get to work quickly to at the very least recoup their initial cost.
What happened to Michael J McMillan (above post) has happened far too often in that type of business (mlm). I have read many accts. here and elsewhere of the unpleasant experiences that people have had at some meetings. Now obviously not all people have this experience nor does all mlm type businesses have these type of people BUT at least you are now aware that it can happen and to be prepared.
BTW, re: the Knowthefactsfirst.com site, you can find sites like that all over the net....where one company bashes another and says how great they are. I would bet if you put ANY mlm company into search engines you will find those types of sites listed in some of the links BUT I will say that mlm tends to attract more of these types of sites then conventional businesses. Just be careful and research everything thoroughly. Ask a TON of questions...you have a right to the answers.
Re: the cost...if you are feeling that the products may be too expensive for you and your contacts, I think you answered a very important question that you have to ask in any business venture... Are the products affordable to the people/demographic where you will concentrate your marketing efforts? Also, I don't know about you, I would find it hard to sell products/services if I did not have a belief in what I was selling. If I went into a business where I thought the price of the product was too expensive, I would find it hard to market it.
BTW, if you are looking at various business opportunities, I would take a long hard look at what MaaMaw has posted at the "Last Chance Biz ops" link at the top of the page. Pay particular attention under the heading KAESER & BLAIR ADVERTISING SPECIALTIES. Dennis Bevers is a regular contributor here and I am sure he would be glad to talk to you about K&B.
Good luck!
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