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Posted By: Tom Brownsword In Response To: Shawn Casey, Jeff Paul, Jim Fleck (Skip Jenkins)
Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 2:56 p.m.
Most of these mentoring programs are designed to hold your hand (and to some extent, hold you accountable) as they give you a system to get your first product developed and marketed. While this has obvious value, there's another course of action that I'd try first.
I recommend that you first purchase a less expensive product (click here to go to MaaMaw's favorite -- it's her link, not mine) -- and that's not the only course out there), work your way through it, and see where you stand. Once you've done that, if you're still not satisfied with your results, then you should attend a live conference, meet some of the "gurus", talk to them, and then decide which one you'd like to give your money to.
It's just me, but I'd have a hard time giving more than $1,000 for anything if I haven't met the person making the offer. And even at that, I've only really met three people I'd be willing to work with (MF, CM, and WC -- no more hints than that!).
It's also my impression that most "gurus" charge ridiculously high prices so they don't waste their time working with someone who isn't serious. That's another reason to attend a live Internet Marketing conference -- most people that would pay the admission fee, fly there, rent a car, stay in a hotel, and eat in restaurants for 3-4 days (not to mention endure the obligatory "pitchfests" that most seem to have) are really serious, hence the speakers / "gurus" are usually willing to spend time talking to people.
And having said that, if you're constantly getting "pitched" to participate in such a program, I'd take that as a red flag. A "hey, I have this service available and this is what it does" type e-mail is O.K. -- but do you really want to give your money to someone that seems to do this sort of thing as a major source of revenue? I'd rather give it to someone making hundreds of thousands of dollars per month actually marketing products in non-Internet Marketing niches. In this case, "those who can, do -- those who can't, teach" may apply.
Incidentally, this is not intended to be a judgment of the individuals mentioned in your post -- it's simply meant to be another factor you may want to consider. I have my own reasons for not doing business with one of the people you mentioned, but it has nothing to do with his products (HINT: Always read the Terms of Service on a website VERY carefully!).
Best wishes,
Tom
Blog by Tom Brownsword (updated March 14, 2006)
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