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Leads Vendors

Posted By: the roadie <wcarton@flash.net>
Thursday, 9 March 2006, at 6:26 a.m.

In Response To: How they work... (Mel. White)

> It's pretty much as the others said -- you put your name and info into the
> website and you are asked some token questions like "how much do you
> want to make per week/month" and "how much time do you have to
> work on this" and then you are persuaded to join the person's
> downline and sell MLM products of some sort. The sales pitch may include
> an upfront cost.

The MLM pyramid-shaped industry depends on a never-ending supply of suckers infected with the gullibility virus, and leads vendors are sometimes paying for their advertising like this. Some of the bottom feeders use spam, which is why you often see spam with similar "fill out this form" formats and no opportunity gets named. But there are some high-end leads vendors who can afford generic TV infomercials. Your data on those forms can be worth $200 over a year as it's sold, resold, and further resold.

I've stung many of those forms with distinctive names to see who buys the leads and track backwards to see who sells them. Infomercials aren't illegal, but the vendors very often have a mixture of leads to sell, and the cheap ones often come from spam. So I like to keep tabs on all of them.

Who was buying a lot of the expensive ($5-50) leads? The usual big-ticket ($1000-3000 buy-in) 2-up program members - Coastal Vacations, Concorde, EPI, LL. Mid-level leads (aging somewhat and going for $1-5) were bought by members of a dozen or so $300-500 operations or the $40-60/month nutraceutical/vitamin supplement MLMs. After 3-6 months, my contact information was being sold for 1-20c in batches of hundreds of leads to the cheapie MLM hopefuls.

When they called and I told them how often my (false) information had been sold and traded, they often opened up and admitted they had been getting disillusioned at the miserable reception they had been getting when calling those leads. They had been yelled at like they were common telemarketers. I advised them they *were* at that point common telemarketers, cold calling telephone numbers that may even be on the federal do-not-call list. Federal regulations say that a phone number on the do-not-call list can be called only for 90 days after an inquiry, which protects a consumer against being called forever after they ask a mortgage broker about a refi, for instance. For 90 days, the broker gets a free pass to call you, under the pre-existing business relationship exemption. That expires in 90 days, and you can enforce your rights under the do-not-call list after that.

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