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Posted By: John Dillman <jad7@share21.com>
Friday, 18 November 2005, at 11:06 a.m.
I paid $297 for 4 coaching sessions. Before coaching begin, he attempted to sell me one of "his" businesses. See email below.
"After thinking about your situation and the way the
bidding ended so abruptly with out you really having
a chance it got me to thinking...
I purchased a very profitable online biz 6 months
ago for $6995.00.
You can check it out here...
http://www.jempublishing.com/infokit.htm
It's been a great income generator, however in the
past 3 months, I've not had the time to really push
it.
Here's what I'll do you for you Jim:
I'll give you the entire biz, product, website, ads,
domain, (create-simple-info-products.com)and 6
months of my coaching.
I'll let this all go to you for ONLY $2250.00.
This is the best I can do for you.
A quality, pro web business for a fraction of the
cost.
Let me know asap if you want this and I'll set it
up for you.
Wishing You The Best,
Gary"
A search on Google came up with this address:
http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/56948
The same product with Master Resale Rights is being sold for $5.
"When I sent email saying I wasn't interested in that business and wanted a refund for the coaching that never took place,
here was his reply:
"First off... Do NOT send me an email with insults
you knucklehead.
I don't know where you get off with this attitude.
Whatever you found is pure J.U.N.K.
My coaching fees are NOT refundable.
Sorry."
Then the subsequent email from me.
"Hello Gary,
This is my third request for a refund of the $297 paid for coaching that did not occur.
I quote you below:
"Whatever you found is pure J.U.N.K.
My coaching fees are NOT refundable.
Sorry."
If it is truly J.U.N.K., then why would you charge me $2,250 for it and more to the point,
why would you say you paid $6,995 for it.
You lost my trust.
Now, I am making a simple reasonable request.
I have just bought the domains www.internetmarketerscam.com and www.onlinemarketerscam.com
Can you guess who will be featured the first month and then in the archives forever?
...
Hopefully, that won't be necessary and we can settle this amicably.
Looking for your response.
Regards,
John
P.S. Web sites and postings will start 48 hours from now if no response.
So far, no response. Paypal has been no help either so I will
request a chargeback on my credit card.
What do they call a person who takes someone else's money without giving any service or product in return?
John
Lisle, Illinois
U.S.A.
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