Abuse gets reported - it's quite simple

> I'm not defending Sam Freedom, but I do notice how everything is spam to
> Carton.

Only the stuff that violates MaaMaw's terms of service, or that of the offender's providers.

> - Spam this, spam that.

Got spam on your mind a lot?

> - I'm gonna report you for spam.

I typically don't warn folks. They should know about how to behave online by now, in the year 2005. Why warn them?

> - I'm gonna get your domain shutdown for spam.

Well, would you have a spammer's domain live to benefit from abuse?

> - You're lucky I wasn't around or I'd make you lose your domain.

If a poster violates their host's terms of service, it's up to the host to investigate and apply their terms of service.

> These "I'm going to get you" tactics will only get you so far
> until undeserving folks get sick of you and start conspiring against you.

Hehe. I think the most number of annoyed folks I had at once was about a hundred, spammers all for the DHS Club. They took offense at www.theclubbuiltonspam.com and blustered, threatened, and moaned about that site to my host and to GoDaddy. Since the site was not libelous, but truthful, nothing ever came of their bluster.

People who follow the rules of the forums they post in are not in any danger from aggressive spam reporters. But you sound like you want to incite them to riot for some reason? Why not encourage them to simply follows the rules?

> I know you are a well respected, well-known, spam fighter, but you cross
> the line a lot.

Love to hear how you think that's possible. If I have a hair-trigger and report someone to their host, and the host declines to take action until they see more egregious abuse, that's their business. I might call for a boycott of rogue providers like that, and add them to my own filters, but that's the beauty of private propetry rights. Crossing the line, to me, involves fighting abuse with abuse, such as DDOS attacks and falling to the spammer's own level and lying about the situation.

> To top it off, you think NO ONE is to be trusted and you
> probably think that 99% of the sites on the internet need to be taken down
> by the law, too.

You're guessing. Just the abusive and illegal sites need to disappear. Hardnly a majority.

> It gets really old, really quick and it seems to me that anyone who posts
> a URL here needs to think twice because if Carton doesn't like you, he'll
> report you for spam.

Hmmmmmm, violating the rules of the forum, that say, "No Drive-By Ads", should suddenly be allowed to flourish? That's destroyed more forums, and the moderators keep it in check far more than my efforts.

> When Carton is around, it's like Nazi Germany around
> here and Hitler just entered the room.

Godwin's Law was just invoked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

"Godwin's law (also Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states that:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.

Although the law does not specifically mention it, there is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress."

> This cannot be a good thing for any
> forum. People will eventually leave in droves because even though they are
> innocent, if Carton does not like you, LOOK OUT!

I have a great relationship with MaaMaw and respect her forum ownership. I report spammers that abuse her only with her permission, which could be withdrawn at any time.

> I could be wrong, but look at the archives. Carton has a long history of
> crying "spam!"

Ten years now.

> I remember not too long ago someone accused me here of caring too much.
> Jeezus!!!! I care too much?! Look at this Carton guy. He's like some
> self-appointed digital superman or something. He cares about spam so much
> that he'll label anything he doesn't like as spam.

Hmmmm, and I thought I was applying the rules of the forum. "No Drive-By Ads"

> Wheew! Now I understand what people mean when they say "you gotta get
> out more."

> Carton, YOU GOTTA GET OUT MORE.

Ahhhh, the ol' "Get a Life" retort. Remarkable in its shallowness of insight. You really have no idea what I do for a day job or for recreation, but you're welcome to speculate.

> PS. Don't look now, but the sky is falling, Carton. And your neighbor is
> plotting to take over your property. LOL.

Hehe. My neighbor knows enough not to step over the line, and his little dog, too! :-)

> Get a life, man!!! Go after real spammers, not petty self-appointed gurus
> that like to post non-malicious links to help their page ranks.

Forum abusers waste our time as well as benefit unjustly from their abuse. Note I *didn't* go after the latest asshat to barge in here. He *was* beneath my contempt.

Oh, and if you think real spammers have been escaping attention of me and my closest friends, you might have missed this news: http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/3556941

> Sam did nothing wrong. Well, at least that is he did not spam anything or
> anyone.

Just violated MaaMaw's rules, which even if it isn't email spam, makes it Internet abuse.

> Your just spam happy, Carton. But eventually, it'll bite you or
> others that treasure you in the ass. Then, all the good that you DO do
> will not mean much anymore as your reputation will be shot for crying wolf
> too much and accusing non-deserving folks of being spammers.

Your sincere warning has been noted.
>
> PPS. I for one will tell you that if this keeps up much longer, I will be
> spreading the word about you on many forums because us regular folk have a
> lot to lose with someone like you around. Even though you do a lot of good
> as far as catching REAL spammers, you do a lot of harm as well. And it
> seems it is starting to outweigh the good things you do.

Innocent folks have nothing to worry about. Spread the word as much as you want if it gives you a hobby. The real spammer forums like bulkbarn and specialham already talk about me, whenever they can arrange hosting that doesn't fall apart like tissue in a hurricane.