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Thank you for valuable info! DNO

Posted By: Angela
Tuesday, 8 November 2005, at 10:30 a.m.

In Response To: Kanoodle *** WARNING *** (Bob Baroner)

> Well, it's very clear to me now that Kanoodle is overcome with click fraud
> (and is a terrible company to deal with). I have, over the last week or
> so, bought $150 in PPC ads from them for keywords ranging from penny
> stocks, to credit cards to merchant accounts to toys to tools and many
> more categories for keywords.

> I bought $50.00 at a time, each time trying new keywords and even pausing
> listings for a while and then restarting with new keywords.

> Every time I activate my campaigns it takes about an hour or 2 to run
> through $20.00 in clicks. My account just gets drained like hotcakes. And
> to boot, there are no conversions to speak of, when these same keywords
> and ads convert on Google and overture.

> I checked my logs and in fact I was getting multiple clicks from just a
> few (7) different IPs for around 500 clicks or so.

> I contacted Kanoodle about this and they denied all of it and would not
> give me my money back. They said that my campaigns are just not converting
> and it was my problem, not theirs. I told them that I had logs to send
> them proving the click fraud. I offered to send them to them but they said
> there was no need since "Kanoodle does not have any click fraud"
> (which is an outright lie because ALL PPC engines have some degree of
> click fraud).

> So I just got off the phone with my credit card issuer. I WILL get my
> money back.

> Just a warning. If you are thinking of using one of the smaller PPC
> engines, forget Kanoodle. Using Kanoodle is like throwing your money into
> a raging fire. DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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