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Awesome!

Posted By: Pete
Tuesday, 1 November 2005, at 4:58 a.m.

In Response To: Somehow, that doesn't surprise me.... (Jimbo)

> Yep.

> Says quite a bit about you, it does. Yes indeed.

Someone else to hound . . .

First of all, get off your friggin soapbox. Like you have NEVER done anything "blackhat"... and if you say you didn't, I will call you a liar. That's like saying you have never . . . uh . . . well, you know. You're a guy.

Secondly, when all these generator programs came out, they weren't CALLED blackhat. That came about after holier-than-thou people began calling them that.

Get over it.

Now, to some facts about these programs - and Bob, in defference to your response - I have tested Traffic Hurricane, Ranking Pro and Directory Generator.

In ALL three cases I have used both the SUPPLIED templates and then my own templates (all on different sites). In ALL cases, I put up between 50 and 1000 pages per site - in one case all at once, in another bit by bit.

In all cases I saw an increase in traffic and then adsense income (by the way, on all sites there WAS content - articles, etc.).

In all cases, after a few months both the traffic and adsense income dropped off.

In ALL cases, every page of every site I was testing was de-listed by Google.

BUT . . . all is not lost. Cause you see, they are still listed in and getting traffic from Yahoo AND MSN.

And as well, I have done another test. On two of the sites, I completely removed the generated pages, then rebuilt the sites by hand. I purchased new articles, made new templates - even made the templates look a bit different. Then uploaded them by hand.

I only did this about two weeks ago, but BOTH sites have been listed (but not a deep listing yet).

So what can be learned from this? Quite simply this: When you find a fast way in, you'll get the fast way out.

When I was in the 8th grade (wwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyy back when), I took a Home Ec class. We made Jello. And we did an experiment. We made one batch per the directions on the box and put it in the fridge. One batch we placed in the freezer.

The one in the freezer was "Jello" within 45 minutes. But it also "de-jelled" within an hour. The other batch lasted several hours.

Slow and easy wins the race.

P

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