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Posted By: P. Drammel
Tuesday, 2 August 2005, at 5:58 p.m.

In Response To: Linda Christas Help Desk: Response and Availability (Valerie: Linda Christas Help Desk Volunteer)

I wanted you to read my post beacause you need to. See my responses below. They are very important...

> All messages are sent to the Linda Christas Help Desk for copy and
> ditribution. Nothing unique about that, M. I'm not a DP person but if you
> were getting different computer IP numbers, I would be worried. What's
> Duh!!

> Again, if anyone out there wants to know something about Linda Christas,
> Help Desk personnel are available at obench@lindas.com.

Sure that sounds great and ideal, but the fact of the matter is, when you are trying to figure out if a biz opp or program you want to get involved in is a scam or not, the last person you wnat to contact for the answer is the actually participants in said biz opp. Ask any one of the Nigerian scammers if he is a scammer and he/she will NOT say "Yes". That would be dumb. A crook is never gonna tell you he/she is a crook. That would be self-defeating for the crook. Your logic is highy, extremely, and painfully flawed.

>I am mystified
> that no one from this site has contacted the people working with Linda
> Christas.

Oh? And how on earth would you know that for sure? The answer is you wouldn't ever be able to know for sure as you do not know who is using their real name here and who is using their real name when they contact you.

> Is this an effort at understanding the marketplace or are we
> into witch burnings here? Valerie, Volunteer, Help Desk, Linda Christas.

Uhhhh, well, I'll give you that one. I won't answer it since I know it will not be well received. BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE OWNER OF THE FORUM AND OTHERS ARE COMING FROM. IT IS A BAD IDEA FOR MULTIPLE PEOPLE TO POST WITH THE SAME IP ADDRESS. 99.99999999999999999% OF THE TIME IT IS THE ACT OF FRAUDSTERS OR TROUBLEMAKERS.

And yes, I did mean to shout that because you have been told this a thousand MFing times yet you folks there seem to not understand it or ignore it. The owner of this forum, nor the owner of any other forum, does not have the time or the resources to be able to know your "special" circumstances and most forum owners don't give a hoot. They will simply ban your IP address if it is used fo rmore than one person. AND that is the end of the story. Becasue nobody usually uses a "system" like you folks claim to be using.

Play by the rules, learn forum ettiquette, and you'll be OK. If you are NOT a shady company, that is.

P. Drammel

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NOTICE TO SCUMBEEZLES
(you know who you are... you scream "Foul!" when the truth comes out)
        PLEASE READ THIS LEGAL NOTICE CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU FILE A LAWSUIT OR EVEN WASTE TIME THINKING ABOUT IT.  It has been done before, but never successfully.  In fact, the last dodobird who tried it ended up being ordered to pay more than $77,000 in attorney fees ($65,000+ to my attorneys and $12,000+ to my co-defendant's legal advisor).
        If your attorney is worth his salt, he's going to tell you that the expense of filing a lawsuit you can't win is a whole lot worse than any "damages" resulting from messages posted on this insignificant little chunk of cyberspace.
        NEWS FLASH:  I didn't just climb down off that ol' turnip truck yesterday.  I'm well aware that expressing a negative opinion, relating one's personal experience, and restating provable facts are all legal in this country and do not constitute libel, slander, or defamation -- so you don't want to play games with me, and you sure don't want to start something you aren't prepared to finish.  I don't take threats lightly, and I don't accept bribes (or did you call it a "mutually-beneficial arrangement"?).  I'll turn you in faster than you can yell, "ARREST ME, I'M SCUM!!" 
        Do yourself a favor and turn your legal team loose in greener pastures.

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        And finally, all you scammers out there will do well to remember that TRUTH IS AN ABSOLUTE DEFENSE against charges of libel, defamation, and slander... so if you're operating just a hop, skip, and jump ahead of the law, you might want to think twice before doing anything stupid... (AND SHAME ON YOU!!).